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I have many hobbies outside of prog music. Granted, most of these are also considered 'nerdy' by the mainstream. 

Video games
Reading
Sci fi movies


I guess I'm just a nerd. :)
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Yeah and when you mention prog you probably sound more nerdy.LOL
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My wife asked me to choose between prog and she, and here I am. Afterall I have several prog Lp covers with nearly-naked women....Thumbs Up
 
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

That's all kind of...dumb.

Many of us have wives, children, enjoy movies, and participate in many other forums besides this one.  We have careers, ambitions, friends, video games, hobbies, beer...in a word, lives.

We are people before we are prog fans.
 
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This is my first visit to the forum for a couple of weeks, owing to work and the fact that I am knee deep helping my wife in her new business (a pub).

However, I am sat here listening to David Gilmour live, back on the forum I love, and all is well with the world again.

Nerds of the world, unite and take over, even if we sometimes have to make allowances for the real worldLOL
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Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

 it seems to me that those who despise or look down on obsessive prog fans do so because of a suspicion that we are armchair adventurers- either we had expectations of experience that our actual lives do not meet or we are aware that their are certain extremes of experience that we'd never reach

Yeah, there are people who actually are in wheelchairs and cannot get laid. Prog is great news for them.

I know this because I'm almost there  (in wheelchairs and cannot get laid)Confused
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

This is my first visit to the forum for a couple of weeks, owing to work and the fact that I am knee deep helping my wife in her new business (a pub).

However, I am sat here listening to David Gilmour live, back on the forum I love, and all is well with the world again.

You will have a lot of threads that you can reply to, thanks to thread-posting addicts like me.LOL
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Quote ... We are people before we are prog fans ...

Hahahaha ...

We'll have to take that to the fans and see if they care ...
 
In general, I think that a lot of us take things seriously but to say that ... we do not have a life ... I'm sorry ... the person who started this thread is so bored ... and probably doesn't like half of music we discuss here ... least of all .. "prog" ...
 
Well, with all due respest, we don't seem to go around with punk hairdo's and chains and ... you know what I mean ...
 
Maybe that is what progressive needs ... some attitude ... !!!
 
 


 
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Maybe that is what progressive needs ... some attitude ... !!!


Chances are you mean that in jest but I will have to agree with that. If there's one popular criticism of progressive rock I agree with it's that it's often too formal and hermetic for its own good, something that I guess eventually happens to pretty much any genre with a self-imposed image of intellectualism. I'm not very interested in a good chunk of generally revered prog for exactly that reason.


Edited by Toaster Mantis - October 21 2009 at 04:27
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Originally posted by thrashaddiction thrashaddiction wrote:

THESE are all great responses...i tend to think that i am owned by my music collection sometimes....that i must listen to great music before there is no time left...i must justify the cds i baught...its great to have an open mind & enjoy all types..not just prog...prog is more of a thinking mans music & pop is is just for the blue coller type...and its cool to be both
 
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There is not a single band that I have ever heard ... that I got it from the folks here ... even this board is behind the times ... !!!
 
I think that you simply have to have an open mind ... look at all the suggestions and check out youtube and have fun listening to some of those things ... but the important part is ... give all ... and I mean ALL ... those folks a full year ... not half, not a quarter, not an eighth ... and some of the nicest things come alive ... they really do.
 
But the most important thing is this ... it's not "prog" as a substitute for life ... it's "music" ... otherwise you will never hear, understand or figure out what can be prog or not and what the term really means and why Robert Fripp thinks that prog'maniacs are crazy .... forget the word ...
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What so you mean a substitute prog is life.
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I rather have 1000 progalbums and alone and be unhappy then wife and family and be unhappy.
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I mean, give your life whatever purpose you want, but this kinda stuff is pretty sad, even I think. Ermm
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Originally posted by XunknownX XunknownX wrote:

I rather have 1000 progalbums and alone and be unhappy then wife and family and be unhappy.
I don't think you're looking at this the right way...
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Creature comforts are not a substitute for proper affection from other human beings, seriously.
I may have been single for a while now, but the times I've been able to hold hands, cuddle and kiss other girls, even if just for one night while not listening to any music I would not have traded for being able to listen to music in those particular moments in time.
There's a reason why I went from post 200 times a day to not even being on PA every day anymore, and it's because there is a goddamn friggen world out there to be explored and there are other human beings to socialize with, and that doesn't happen when you're being a recluse listening to prog rock by yourself all the time.

I'm 20 now, but I realize sometime in as soon as the next few months I'm going to have to, you know, ACTUALLY GROW UP and realize listening to music is far from what should be considered a high priority in one's life.
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by XunknownX XunknownX wrote:

I rather have 1000 progalbums and alone and be unhappy then wife and family and be unhappy.
I don't think you're looking at this the right way...
I don't believe in "right" or "wrong" ways to look at things.
What I ment was that ones life can be as it is, whatever it depends on. In this case: If one is generaly unhappy (like me) I'd rather be that loving prog then have the same feeling towards life with, for example wife and children. So, in my case, I feel that I don't have a life at all (not having a family), but I rather be in that state digging prog than to feel like that with a family, because otherwise that would mean that my hope for a better life (having a family) will crash and then not even prog would save me. Sad? yes - there's many of me... to put it simple, prog can't be a substiute for life if one hasn't got a life, but rather that then feel the same if I would have had all that that generally is what defines "having a life", if still being unhappy.


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Originally posted by XunknownX XunknownX wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by XunknownX XunknownX wrote:

I rather have 1000 progalbums and alone and be unhappy then wife and family and be unhappy.
I don't think you're looking at this the right way...
I don't believe in "right" or "wrong" ways to look at things.
I think that may be your problem.
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Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Creature comforts are not a substitute for proper affection from other human beings, seriously.
I may have been single for a while now, but the times I've been able to hold hands, cuddle and kiss other girls, even if just for one night while not listening to any music I would not have traded for being able to listen to music in those particular moments in time.
There's a reason why I went from post 200 times a day to not even being on PA every day anymore, and it's because there is a goddamn friggen world out there to be explored and there are other human beings to socialize with, and that doesn't happen when you're being a recluse listening to prog rock by yourself all the time.

I'm 20 now, but I realize sometime in as soon as the next few months I'm going to have to, you know, ACTUALLY GROW UP and realize listening to music is far from what should be considered a high priority in one's life.
 
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I'm 10 years older than you and I just realized that just less than two years ago or so...
 
And when you see and enjoy music for what it truly is (irrelevant) it actually gets better... because you don't have to be rationalizing and judging every music you hear... You pick what you like and what you don't like based in your actual identity, not on what you "should" be liking.


Edited by The T - October 27 2009 at 10:56
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Music sometimes influence in your life, sometimes too much... but hey... I guess all of us have a lot of hobbies like reading, video games, movies -those three are mine- but those are just hobbies... our jobs, our family and everything else from social relations are really life... so, Prog don't replace life, but makes it a lot more happier... I really enjoy to listen out loud a Dream Theater album after a bad day in the work and believe me and I feel alive again... so music is like the oil in our engines... but our motor is the real life...
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by XunknownX XunknownX wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by XunknownX XunknownX wrote:

I rather have 1000 progalbums and alone and be unhappy then wife and family and be unhappy.

I don't think you're looking at this the right way...


I don't believe in "right" or "wrong" ways to look at things.

I think that may be your problem.


After this intimate touching story of mister XunknownX this is not a appropiate reacting of you mister plainview. Try to get your kick elsewhere with 'being right'.

As for mister XunknownX, I took me some time to realisize the full meaning of your story, but I thought it sounded pretty sad. I must say prog is a way to make your live better, an endless stream of art (both music and covers) that can raise the quality of your live. I wouldn't dig into progressive to much if I was unhappy though. Progressive music has it's lonely side: you won't get much recognition in your normal live for your hobby. This might give you a feeling (as it did with me some time) that you are so enourmesly seperated of normal sociaty.

Furthermore, research has shown it's better to get out in the world and go for long walks and meet new people then to sit at home feeling sad. Progressive music is a lonely hobby for most of us and might not be very helpfull in this case if you listen to your music at home all the time. I'm not trying to critisize you at all, but I feel touched by your story and I just want to try to help.
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