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rosenbach

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 00:12

Agree with some of the already mentioned here:

Dream theater
Porcupine tree
Flower Kings
Spock’s beard
Sigur Ros

And a lot of Progressive metal bands from the last years

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 00:16

Captain Capricorn wrote:

Marillion & The Flower Kings

Sounds like an early 60's band...

Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart's Club Band

with

Marillion & The Flower Kings

At the Filmore

Wink

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Sacred 22

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 01:40

over rated bands from where I sit.

without any explanation and in no particular order and many of which I do enjoy.

Rush
Beatles
Porcupine Tree
Dream Theater
Pink Floyd
Camel
Marillion
Tool
The Mars Volta
dare I say Genesis Wink

Uriah Heep
Jethro Tull

to just name a few. Anyway, it's all just a bit of fun anyway. right?

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 06:46

first of all I go with Raff that "overrated" usually means "gets lots of acclaim, but I just don't like it". that being said: I never understood all the fuss about Rush. certainly good musicians, though not as good as their fan club tries to make them (this especially refers to the "Peartians" on this forum), but their compositions are a bit dull, in my opinion. not my cup of tea

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 07:11

The T wrote:

Of course Sigur Ros... even if one person likes the, that's too much.

Among many more...

T, I'm gonna nominate you as the President of the Sigur Ros Appreciation Society!! Proceed straight to the Post Rock Appreciation Thread. Do not pass "Go", do not pick up $200!!!!!!!

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 07:23

HughesJB4 wrote:

NaturalScience wrote:

another vote for Camel

uh, I guess I'll say Kayo Dot as well but I'm getting my flame-retardant suit ready LOL

You sir, are going to need not only the flame retardant suit, but a bullet proof vest for the Kayo Dot comment Tongue

Yeah, that's why I'm not a fan of the term "overrated" as such, just I can't see what the fuss is all about. But that's my loss.

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 09:56

Captain Capricorn wrote:

The Flower Kings

I know I'm opening myself up to criticism here but I just think you are wrong to suggest that The Flower Kings are over-rated.

I would respectfully suggest that you sit and watch the "Meet The Flower Kings" DVD. This (at the very least)displays superb musicians playing brilliantly composed music.

As someone who grew up with Yes, Genesis, Camel and all the other 70s classic bands, The Flower Kings are, in my opinion the absolute real deal and the best band to emerge in the past 20 years in this genre.

Someone else put it better than I ever could in his review of the DVD I mentioned earlier:

The Flower Kings on this double-disc, live CD, featuring six compositions ("Garden of Dreams" is in two parts, making for a total of seven tracks) offer one of the brightest views yet of a band whose obsession with musical exploration and complex harmonic issues never, ever gets in the way of an honest expression of "song," and the human emotions and narratives within it.

Led by guitarist and vocalist Roine Stolt, this Swedish septet offers a live outing every bit as adventurous as their studio offerings. Stolt's debt to Yes' Jon Anderson and Steve Hackett is still everywhere evident, but his lyrics are not consciously obtuse, and are drenched in life-affirming scenarios.

Musically, the band's reliance on melody and harmony to carry forth their edgier musical explorations is a real blessing; they welcome the listener inside their sound world and make them a part of their sprawling musical narratives. One listen to the opener, "The Truth Will Set You Free," (clocking in at over 31 minutes), or Disc Two's 26-minute-plus closer, "Stardust We Are," proves that good music has no expiration date, and that inspiration is a deep well that knows no prejudices. This is the real stuff: brave, elegant, ambitious and yes, soulful.

Amen

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 10:21

Nov wrote:

Captain Capricorn wrote:

The Flower Kings

I know I'm opening myself up to criticism here but I just think you are wrong to suggest that The Flower Kings are over-rated.

I would respectfully suggest that you sit and watch the "Meet The Flower Kings" DVD. This (at the very least)displays superb musicians playing brilliantly composed music.

Someone else put it better than I ever could in his review of the DVD I mentioned earlier:

Amen

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 11:28

I'm surprised by the amount the Flower Kings have been mentioned if only because they have a lot of detractors anyway and that most of their albums are rated around 3.7.

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 12:01

TFK have only been mentioned 3 times

Nov

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 12:03

Captain Capricorn

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Err...ok then.

What do

Err...ok then.

What do you mean though

(I'm a bit naive

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Edited by Nov - March 16 2009 at 12:04

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 12:04

Well, make it four. Another band that isn't terrible, but they aren't the second coming either.

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 12:05

Nov wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn
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Captain Capricorn
I'll see your FK suggestion & raise you an Esquivel Other Worlds, Other Sounds (1958)

Err...ok then.

What do you mean though

(I'm a bit naive

)

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I'm gonna check out your suggestion - & I was making one of my own

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 12:12

The Flower Kings
Van der Graff Generator

Both of these bands, while very talented musically, suffer in the composition department by invariably letting songs FAR outstay their welcome.

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 12:38

Sacred 22 wrote:

over rated bands from where I sit.

dare I say Genesis Wink

Amen , let's shock the system here!

Let me throw another bomb: PETER GABRIEL IS OVERRATED

Edited by crimson87 - March 16 2009 at 12:41

mr.cub

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 13:53

^ Oh my!

Not many of these groups are overrated outside of the prog rock community. I believe the only real prog bands that are hyped to the nth degree outside of core prog fans are Rush and Pink Floyd. I would agree with someone who mentioned earlier that many prog bands are underrated in relation to other more popular groups (say Led Zeppelin)

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 14:05

Three pages? I think this topic is overrated.

Bigger on the inside.

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Posted: March 16 2009 at 14:09

All a matter of personal opinion, in other words what we don't like that much as opposed to overrated in the true sense of the word, but my vote goes to ELP. I never did get the point of it all, far too overblown and, in truth, not that good, especially live, although I still rate Palmer highly as a drummer and love Lake's voice, especially with KC.

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