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Tapfret
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 15:37 |
debrewguy wrote:
... that would leave very few RIO/Avant-Gardeners ...
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What? No! Of course those are not weeds. Those are just very complex carrots that very few people know how to eat.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: December 24 2008 at 20:24 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
I don't understand why people here get so upset about stuff like this. It's even scary when people are planning-out all the prog their kids are going to listen to... *shivers* |
It is weird how much some people here define themselves by their music taste. I meant to complain at people in that thread but it's dead now. Oh well.
topofsm wrote:
Wasn't there a poll recently where the biggest demographic here was teenagers from the US? I'll have to look that one up. |
While the majority are people older than that, as I recall yes, they were the single largest demographic. It's funny that the people who are actually old have gotten over complaining about kids these days. ;-)
PetrucciPal wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
Oh god, not this thread again. And we wonder why people think we're pretentious...
Backstreet Boys vs Led Zeppelin is not a valid comparison in any way. And to the rest of the post: idk my bff jill
PetrucciPal wrote:
Yay! He's younger than I thought! ^_^ |
Please don't make that face again. |
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But it's amazing. lol |
What are you even saying?
PetrucciPal wrote:
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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topofsm
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Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 00:28 |
In a somewhat related sentence, today I spend a good 3 hours talking to a Norwegian exchange student who is 17, and she and I had a damn good talk about music. She enjoys Dream Theater, Frank Zappa, and Opeth (even the growly parts). It was freaking amazing that she and I had plenty of similar tastes (of course, she mostly likes female fronted power metal), and the fact that she was young AND female just astounded me at how good her musical tastes were.
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peskypesky
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Location: Texas
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 18:34 |
One word: de-evolution
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stonebeard
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Location: NE Indiana
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 18:44 |
June wrote:
Kids are kids |
Kids will be skeletons. /lame-ass Mogwai reference Re: thread: zomg xD
Also, believe it or not, musicians over 40 don't really do new things
in music. Them dern kids may make sh*tty music 80% of the time or more,
but that remainder is usually far more edgy and original (pretentious
too, perhaps) than their older counterparts.
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MusicForSpeedin
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Location: United States
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Posted: December 25 2008 at 19:00 |
It seems like post rock is the popular music among the kids in new orleans. Bands like sigur ros, godspeed you! black emperor and maps and atlases(not really post rock) are pretty much accepted by kids of today. Hella and Lightning Bolt are probably frequently found on some mix CDs with the likes of Modest Mouse, Fleet Foxes, and Breathe Owl Breathe .
Maps and Atlases were on MTVs artist on the rise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-1HWJ-FtEs
Edited by MusicForSpeedin - December 25 2008 at 19:01
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PetrucciPal
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Joined: May 21 2008
Location: Boredomtown.
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 11:09 |
Tapfret wrote:
There's only one answer.
PROG BOOT CAMP!!!
HUT-2-3-4....um...5.
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LMAO
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For the <3 of John Petrucci!
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debrewguy
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 11:57 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well why would you expect an 11 year old to have a strongly formed opinion on anything. Honestly music is a very powerful, personal, and intricate thing. To expect young people to be able to intake information and make informed musical decisions is really as unrealistic as expecting them to do the same with respect to political or medical decision. |
informed musical decisions ?/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa you either like a song or you don't. there is no other info ...
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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A Person
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 21:22 |
MusicForSpeedin wrote:
It seems like post rock is the popular music among the kids in new orleans. Bands like sigur ros, godspeed you! black emperor and maps and atlases(not really post rock) are pretty much accepted by kids of today. Hella and Lightning Bolt are probably frequently found on some mix CDs with the likes of Modest Mouse, Fleet Foxes, and Breathe Owl Breathe .
Maps and Atlases were on MTVs artist on the rise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-1HWJ-FtEs
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You are lucky post rock is popular where you live. The closest "popular" thing around here is some classic rock aka songs in Guitar Hero/Rock Band. I can't remember the song, but my sister thought a rap song was weird because it had a drum and odd sounding vocals. I was really close to making her listen too Magma. Anyways, Maybe I should try to get more people into post rock, I just need to find someone who will appreciate Godspeed You! Black Emperor.
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Equality 7-2521
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Location: Philly
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 23:20 |
debrewguy wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well why would you expect an 11 year old to have a strongly formed opinion on anything. Honestly music is a very powerful, personal, and intricate thing. To expect young people to be able to intake information and make informed musical decisions is really as unrealistic as expecting them to do the same with respect to political or medical decision. |
informed musical decisions ?/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa you either like a song or you don't. there is no other info ...
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Umm yes but you act like the judgement of a song as liked or not liked happens by random processes. It certainly doesn't. And I think we can agree some criteria for judging are better than others. A guitarist being cute would be objectively a lesser reason for liking a band than a guitarist invoking a strong emotion other than sexual attraction. However, children certainly like songs based on the image of the members of the band. I'm saying that as they mature these criteria become more refined.
Also you can't deny that a child listens to music with the same focus as an adult.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 23:33 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Well why would you expect an 11 year old to have a strongly formed opinion on anything. Honestly music is a very powerful, personal, and intricate thing. To expect young people to be able to intake information and make informed musical decisions is really as unrealistic as expecting them to do the same with respect to political or medical decision. |
informed musical decisions ?/ HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa you either like a song or you don't. there is no other info ...
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Umm yes but you act like the judgement of a song as liked or not liked happens by random processes. It certainly doesn't. And I think we can agree some criteria for judging are better than others. A guitarist being cute would be objectively a lesser reason for liking a band than a guitarist invoking a strong emotion other than sexual attraction. However, children certainly like songs based on the image of the members of the band. I'm saying that as they mature these criteria become more refined.
Also you can't deny that a child listens to music with the same focus as an adult.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA |
Furthermore, I was pretty sure he meant a wide knowledge of music, something which is impossible for 11 year olds, seeing as how they only recently came into existence.
Unless you are a Suzuki violinist, I guess.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 23:39 |
^ Good so I wasn't speaking as vaguely as he made it seem.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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AlbertMond
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 03:22 |
PetrucciPal wrote:
5. [Last one, I promise] What's with the constant use of screaming??!
The first time I heard Octavarium, the climatic part when James LaBrie starts screaming, "Trapped inside! This! Octavarium!" I literally had a music orgasm. LMAO it was AWESOME! Just the emotion put into that part made me like..."Gah!" lol
But yeah, I have to complain, the screaming done in most of the bands that I listen to on my iPod is pretty much getting a little wasted. One of my most favorite screamers, however, the one from the band Attack Attack!, is amazing. I don't necessarily criticize his over use of his talent, but I guess for the screamer of Atreyu I have to admit, not the best in the world. Mainly because I don't like it THAT much....I dunno. Just the screaming in general I can do without, except for Att Att ^_^ |
Agreed. When every song is constant screaming throughout, it loses its emotional impact.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: December 28 2008 at 08:27 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO KILL IT WITH FIRE! |
Edited by Slartibartfast - December 28 2008 at 08:30
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Lost Follower
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 07:07 |
Avantgardehead wrote:
I don't understand why people here get so upset about stuff like this. It's even scary when people are planning-out all the prog their kids are going to listen to... *shivers*
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I was thinking much the same. I can't think why school kids would want to listen to 'Prog'. At that age you should be listening to The Stooges or The Hives and getting all those hormones sorted out, not worrying about an Em7 or Codas. Go out, get pissed, have sex and listen to loud guitars or the fonk!
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~Jump you f**ker jump~
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Vompatti
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 07:12 |
When I was a kid I listened to Take That.
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Lost Follower
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 07:16 |
Vompatti wrote:
When I was a kid I listened to Take That.
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Infinately preferable to Rush.
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~Jump you f**ker jump~
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PetrucciPal
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 10:37 |
Lost Follower wrote:
Avantgardehead wrote:
I don't understand why people here get so upset about stuff like this. It's even scary when people are planning-out all the prog their kids are going to listen to... *shivers* |
I was thinking much the same. I can't think why school kids would want to listen to 'Prog'. At that age you should be listening to The Stooges or The Hives and getting all those hormones sorted out, not worrying about an Em7 or Codas. Go out, get pissed, have sex and listen to loud guitars or the fonk!
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Well, I do go out, get angry, still a virgin and listen to Dream Theater and Rush. And I'm still considered a teenager. lol
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For the <3 of John Petrucci!
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PetrucciPal
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 10:39 |
I think this world would be a better place if kids my age listened to progressive rock music rather than their silly break up songs. Just thought I'd clear things up a bit. So yeah, maybe having kids listen to prog rock is a sort of bad thing, considering the fact that prog wouldn't be as underground as it is (I guess some people like that concept?). Buuuuuuut, if kids listening to it WERE the case, then we progaholics wouldn't be as oppose to listening to the radio! =D
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For the <3 of John Petrucci!
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 11:01 |
PetrucciPal wrote:
I think this world would be a better place if kids my age listened to progressive rock music rather than their silly break up songs. Just thought I'd clear things up a bit. So yeah, maybe having kids listen to prog rock is a sort of bad thing, considering the fact that prog wouldn't be as underground as it is (I guess some people like that concept?). Buuuuuuut, if kids listening to it WERE the case, then we progaholics wouldn't be as oppose to listening to the radio! =D |
At this point, I can't say which of you, PROGMONSTER and Davetheslave was the best thing to happen to PA, but congrats anyway. I'd try explaining things to you, but I can't see the point of it anymore. Instead, I will leave you with a question: do you think you could have leapt out of your cradle and straight ahead for that Dream Theater CD? There's a time and place for everything. As for not listening to prog being somehow a bad thing for the world, I won't even bother.
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