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Stool Man
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 10:18 |
From the end of December 1969 up to the beginning of January 1971 - that's my choice
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prog4evr
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Posted: September 22 2008 at 08:16 |
someone_else wrote:
Until 1970, prog was still rather proto. The first albums which can properly be called proto-prog were Revolver (The Beatles) and A Quick One (The Who, mostly because of the title track)., both dating from 1966.
The best prog era was, IMHO, from 1971 to 1976: the groundbreaking prog dinosaurs (Genesis, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, Gentle Giant and many others) had reached the peak of their creativity.
Hereafter, these bands grew weary of producing masterpieces and the punk/new wave hype had some other devastating effects. Among the view prog highlights of this era were: Danger Money (UK), Nude (Camel) and the Rush albums of the period. In 1983, prog was revived by bands like Marillion and IQ. But all of these lean on the masters of the 70's.
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Good assessment. Couldn't agree more!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: September 22 2008 at 19:10 |
Modern production takes more away than it gives actually. Everything sounds sterile with modern production (but for a few exceptions). The music has become a lot less daring, mostly due to the music industry not supporting really daring things. With many artists I have the feeling they are just going through the motions, without any real spirit behind it. The best years were from 1967 to 1976. There were some true gems afterwards too; the problem is that you have to wade through a morass of rubbish to find it. It is not even that today's music really is bad; the problem is one just has a feeling to have it heard all before already. Another thing is that I myself have changed too. Perhaps some of the prog of today might have excited me 10 or 20 years ago, but it does not today. One of the few exceptions of today's prog are The Red Masque, who sadly are very underappreciated. Another quite recent band I love a lot, Hadouk featuring Didier Malherbe of Gong, does not fall under prog, they are more a kind of ethno-jazz. Incidentally jazz and classical music have become what I listen to today mostly. I still like the recordings from the beginnings of prog though.
Edited by BaldFriede - September 23 2008 at 07:55
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trackstoni
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Posted: September 23 2008 at 07:10 |
Reasonable thinking Progressive for Ever , but keep on Questionning ////////////////////////
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Tracking Tracks of Rock
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MrBertstown
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Posted: September 23 2008 at 17:53 |
1967-1969
It was primitive, but most of the music was awesome.
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Thank God for Kids who love Obscure Things.
Lee Hazelwood (1929-2007)
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Jaja Macca
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Posted: November 28 2008 at 22:10 |
The Late 60 and Early 70.
Best period: 68 to 75
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lukedunne
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Posted: November 29 2008 at 06:25 |
1970-1975 German Krautrock 1988-present POST-ROCK
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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 29 2008 at 18:48 |
I must go with thr 70's, on any musical genres(Hard Rock and Prog/Fusion specially) Then would be 60's and 80's Proggy, Psych, Pop, Heavy stuff And last 90's/00's, while I'm starting to really like bands from this/that era, still I don't think they can match the previous, except for the 80's. I love some genres from now, specially Alt Rock/Grunge(Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Blind Melon and Audioslave), Prog (DT, TFK, Transatlantic, Tangent, others)
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manofmystery
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 00:50 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Modern production takes more away than it gives actually. Everything sounds sterile with modern production (but for a few exceptions). The music has become a lot less daring, mostly due to the music industry not supporting really daring things. With many artists I have the feeling they are just going through the motions, without any real spirit behind it. The best years were from 1967 to 1976. There were some true gems afterwards too; the problem is that you have to wade through a morass of rubbish to find it. It is not even that today's music really is bad; the problem is one just has a feeling to have it heard all before already.
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![Clap Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif) I may be 24 but I can hear this quite easily, new music is too clean, too polished
with modern prog I seem to be:
A) bored by perfectly clean sounding songs that are stretched beyond 15 minute when they should be around 4 because the band is enamored with their own playing
B) confronted by metal and told to live with it because this is what prog now is
also, modern vocals are especially dull, nobody has any character in their voice anymore but this is a problem that crosses all genres. modern bands need to find their own voices both literally and musically.
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![](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/uploads/18069/winter_sig.jpg) Time always wins.
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J-Man
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 07:50 |
Well, the 70's was by far the most important historically, and contains some of the best progrock bands ever. However, I love the 90's and the 00's because I am a huge prog metal fan. I'm not a huge fan of 80's prog because on so many albums the music is great (or not, Big Generator) but the arrangments (electric drums, only synths, etc.) ruined so many songs for me.
I guess I probably like 90-now a little bit more than the 70's, but not by much! ![Smile Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 09:48 |
2010-2020, but we're going to have to wait.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 11:49 |
1966-1979 definitely
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Sunny In Jeddah
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Posted: November 30 2008 at 12:51 |
Even though I'm young and I like a fair number of modern prog bands I'm still gonna go with the 70's. They just did it first, and probably best.
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theblastocyst
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Posted: December 02 2008 at 00:54 |
1965-1975
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 11:05 |
1969 - 1979 is the GOLDEN ERA of PROG
Here is the proof
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rod65
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 11:27 |
Hard to say, for me. There are certainly more prog bands around now, and some of them very good. On a personal note, the 90s and 00s curently take up most of my listening time. But the from '69 through the 70s should probably be given pride of place. The bands of this era were the groundbreakers, and continue to be the touchstones for younger prog bands.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 11:29 |
VCG wrote:
i'm sure that there are awesome stuff from 70's and 80's,
but i think the modern production shows clearly everything that is
playing, so, to me the best era is after 2000, and i like so much some
stuff from 90's.
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Modern production values are bloody awful. Loud, glossy, modern...
absolutely unlistenable. It doesn't help that this painful sheen is added to musically
derivative slop. Give me the 70s and the 80s any day.
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Dean
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 12:12 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
VCG wrote:
i'm sure that there are awesome stuff from 70's and 80's, but i think the modern production shows clearly everything that is playing, so, to me the best era is after 2000, and i like so much some stuff from 90's.
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Modern production values are bloody awful. Loud, glossy, modern... absolutely unlistenable. It doesn't help that this painful sheen is added to musically derivative slop.
Give me the 70s and the 80s any day.
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What about modern music produced using antediluvian technology?
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What?
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 12:19 |
Then its a conscious throwback which just retreads what's already been perfected in a previous age. New music sickens me to no end.
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Epignosis
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 12:52 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Then its a conscious throwback which just retreads what's already been perfected in a previous age. New music sickens me to no end.
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They all have a modern production and use modern technology, but you are still okay with these albums because the bands themselves began prior to 1989.
You amuse me Walter. ![Clap Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif)
I think it'd be fun to do an experiment with you. I would post a half dozen or so relatively obscure samples, and ask you 1) Whether you think the music came from a pre-1989 band or a post-1989 band and then 2) What your opinion is of the music itself.
Could be interesting. ![Wink Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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