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mithrandir
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Posted: July 12 2008 at 14:19 |
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Philéas
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Posted: July 13 2008 at 13:29 |
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^Ah yes. I used to be into Cap'n Jazz. |
What happened?
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: July 13 2008 at 14:06 |
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 02:09 |
I had only ever heard Relationship Of Command from At The Drive In, but my sister has moved back in and has all their albums, so I shall be able to hear all their stuff now
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Philéas
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 05:45 |
moreitsythanyou wrote:
That aside, I still want to hear that Cap'n Jazz album Anabethaology or whatever it is.
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Analphabetapolothology. It's a discography release, compiling all their recorded material. Tracks 1-12 on disc one are the best ones, they were originally released on their LP in 95. All of their stuff is more or less brilliant, though.
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 19:35 |
Philéas wrote:
Moatilliatta wrote:
^Ah yes. I used to be into Cap'n Jazz. |
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I guess my tastes simply changed in a way that Cap'n Jazz was not in accordance with.
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Philéas
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Posted: July 15 2008 at 07:08 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
I guess my tastes simply changed in a way that Cap'n Jazz was not in accordance with. |
Oh well.
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Posted: July 28 2008 at 22:04 |
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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mithrandir
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 02:04 |
Cap'n Jazz aint bad, but there are better bands to get into IMO, they're kind of Emo leaning towards Emo-Pop, sort of like Mineral and Sunny Day Real Estate, with a bit more of a rough and dissonant edge
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:32 |
Woa, deadish thread, and went off topic kinda.
Need more ATDI discussion.
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Figglesnout
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:49 |
Agreed. Initiate:
Does anyone else think that Cedric's lyrics, though rather nonsensical, worked better here than in TMV?
I do.
At least some ATDI songs make sense. Personally, I've always thought Relationship seemed to be kind of a concept album.
Like, about aliens or something attacking people in some secret base and spreading across the world and causing quarantine and stuff. Lots of lyrical themes about stuff like that.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:55 |
Yeah, I agree actually, Cedric's lyrics actually make lots more sense in ADTI than TMV. I never thought of Relationship of Command as a concept album really. Sure, some reoccurring themes in there, but surely not a concept album, kinda a stretch.
Lately, I've been listening to way more ADTI than TMV actually.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 02:58 |
Actually, an interesting thing of note, when I first heard ADTI in 2005, I had no real understanding of what the different punk genres were by name really. I think ATDI helped to establish Post Hardcore as being my favorite punk genre, but the beauty of ATDI, is that they took it further than most other Post Hardcore bands (although arguably Refused were just as inventive and innovative in the Post Hardcore field) and just made it.... beautiful really.
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Figglesnout
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 03:11 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Actually, an interesting thing of note, when I first heard ADTI in 2005, I had no real understanding of what the different punk genres were by name really.I think ATDI helped to establish Post Hardcore as being my favorite punk genre, but the beauty of ATDI, is that they took it further than most other Post Hardcore bands (although arguably Refused were just as inventive and innovative in the Post Hardcore field) and just made it.... beautiful really.
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I agree with you!!!!!!!!!!
Post-Hardcore = win
Dunno why some people refute its existence though...
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 03:33 |
I don't really consider myself much of a punk fan at all. In fact, I can't stand listening to most genres of punk at all. Post Hardcore (and related stuff like Avant Post Hardcore) is probably the only punk genre I really listen too. It just seems to have more musical freedom than many other punk genres, better musicianship and just is more intellectual in a way I can't describe well. When I found out that ATDI was in fact, a punk band, I was finally proud to be a punk fan (even if I'm not a big punk fan). ATDI is occasionally my favorite band at times, like now, I'm listening to them a lot again. I think it's sad a lot of people miss the fact that ATDI was more than just 'another punk band' and take them too much for face value when to me and I guess the other's that contributed to this thread, it's really something truly deep and was truly something else in an age where punk was excessively (and still is sadly) homogenized. It's the people that don't see that you truly feel sorry for, because they missing what is a truly positive force to make you think and realize you can be a better person.
Edited by HughesJB4 - August 28 2008 at 03:34
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Figglesnout
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 03:38 |
Once again, I agree.
i think the songwriting on relationship is astoundingly good.
the same with most of in/casino/out.
and even when the musicianship isn't supremely tight (on older records), the emotion is still present, the intensity and fun still there as well, and the band just delivers...
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mithrandir
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Posted: August 28 2008 at 23:31 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Actually, an interesting thing of note, when I first heard ADTI in 2005, I had no real understanding of what the different punk genres were by name really. I think ATDI helped to establish Post Hardcore as being my favorite punk genre, but the beauty of ATDI, is that they took it further than most other Post Hardcore bands (although arguably Refused were just as inventive and innovative in the Post Hardcore field) and just made it.... beautiful really.
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you must not have heard very many Post-Hardcore bands if you think those bands took anything "further" - familiar with Fugazi any? Minutemen, Moss Icon, Scratch Acid, Hoover, Nation of Ulysses? how 'bout the Dazzling Killmen, Drive Like Jehu, Quicksand, Unwound? Native Nod, Current, Antioch Arrow? believe me there's many more bands that fall in the realm of Post-Hardcore that were earlier, far more inventive and even better that ATDI, don't mean to derail the thread, but it must be said,
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Posted: August 31 2008 at 15:40 |
Oh, Unwound. Oh my. What a band. Oh yes. Also, kudos for mentioning Native Nod and Current. Mind-blowing.
Also, on the subject of Cap'n Jazz, I really dig that whacky, naïvistic indie sound they've got. And Mineral (while being heavily influenced by SDRE) were simply amazing. There's just so much passion in Chris Simpson's singing. I agree that neither band really fit in with other emo bands of the time, soundwise. But emo wasn't so much a sound as a scene, that's the impression I get from what I've been told about it by people who were there when it happened. That's why you get sappy twinkly stuff and noisy hardcore lumped together under one tag.
As for Sunny Day, to me they're simply post-grunge, uninteresting such at that. But Mineral and Cap'n Jazz (the latter one in particular) are definitely worth listening to.
Edited by Philéas - August 31 2008 at 15:44
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: August 31 2008 at 16:16 |
Sunny Day Real Estate is incredible, definitely my favorite true emo band. Mineral and Christie Front Drive are swell as well, and I must check out this Cap'n Jazz...
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: September 01 2008 at 01:28 |
The Antique wrote:
Agreed. Initiate:
Does anyone else think that Cedric's lyrics, though rather nonsensical, worked better here than in TMV?
I do.
At least some ATDI songs make sense. Personally, I've always thought Relationship seemed to be kind of a concept album.
Like, about aliens or something attacking people in some secret base and spreading across the world and causing quarantine and stuff. Lots of lyrical themes about stuff like that. |
I always thought of Relationship of Command as little vignettes in each song rather than a concept, like Enfilade for example that song is so cool
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