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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:12 |
The Whistler wrote:
Too Old is not among my favorite Tull albums, but it's pretty solid all the same, and I don't see what's wrong with it at all. However, Minstrel (which DOES get bashed from time to time) is a weird lil' pocket of emotional catharsis that pleases me whenever I put it on, |
Minstrel in the Gallery gets bashed? News to me. I do remember reading that Too Old To Rock'n'Roll, Too Young to Die is generally seen as one of their lesser albums, though...
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Evans
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:15 |
Maybe Fugazi by Marillion? It has almsot a 4 on Pa, i think, but most seem to like it less than Script and Misplaced Childhood at least... but then again, so do i, so.. uuh.. i'll have to think.
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'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..'
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The Whistler
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:20 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Too Old is not among my favorite Tull albums, but it's pretty solid all the same, and I don't see what's wrong with it at all. However, Minstrel (which DOES get bashed from time to time) is a weird lil' pocket of emotional catharsis that pleases me whenever I put it on, |
Minstrel in the Gallery gets bashed? News to me. I do remember reading that Too Old To Rock'n'Roll, Too Young to Die is generally seen as one of their lesser albums, though... |
Yeah, Minstrel was listed here. I think I trod the line of "majority dislikes" and "majority doesn't really care about, so they never mention it, but fans REALLY like it."
Too Old is pretty much universally hated though; too much rock, not enough prog, something like that. It's a friggin' rock opea fer goshsakes though, and besides, there's some nice material on there, particularly the first side.
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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:37 |
The Whistler wrote:
Yeah, Minstrel was listed here. I think I trod the line of "majority dislikes" and "majority doesn't really care about, so they never mention it, but fans REALLY like it." |
Ah. Now it makes much more sense.
Too Old is pretty much universally hated though; too much rock, not enough prog, something like that. It's a friggin' rock opea fer goshsakes though, and besides, there's some nice material on there, particularly the first side. |
That makes no sense... Aqualung is pretty well-respected, but it's not that prog either.
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Raff
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:39 |
cacho wrote:
True!! Ivan is Gabriel!!
Also some have changed through the months, Ghost Rider, Progtoligist, Guigo, and some many others.
Ghost Rider I symbolised her with Heaven and Hell!! now well she's nobody kidding Raff..(please Micky don't kill me for this ) |
Well, I actually am High Tide's wonderful Sea Shanties album ... Not a person, but a very beautiful cover nonetheless (inspired by Coleridge's The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner, btw). I do like to change my avatars, unless one day I find one that suits me perfectly (very unlikely).
Back in topic, if I have to think of albums I like while the majority seem not to, two immediately spring to mind: Rush's Vapor Trails and Yes' 90125. Someone else also mentioned Crest of a Knave, which is quite a good album in my book, though certainly not a masterpiece like Aqualung or TAAB.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:46 |
Maybe Crest of a Knave takes some flak because it beat out Metallica for the Best Metal Performance Grammy?
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A B Negative
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 05:22 |
I love Earthbound by King Crimson, probably for the same reasons most people dislike it!
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Rocktopus
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 06:08 |
laplace wrote:
pop-era Kraftwerk just because they aren't freaking out or making rhythmscapes. |
I like all their 70's albums but my favorite Kraftwerk era is probably 77-81. Man Machine has the the second most raters and the highest rating, so I guess their just unpopular among the people posting in this forum.
The Residents conceptual masterpiece: Mark of the Mole (3, 02) My favorite Klaus Schulze album (I think) Blackdance (3,06) Then there's the perfect Quiet Zone/Pleasure Dome by Van Der Graaf (rating: 3, 42)
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sleeper
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 06:11 |
Pain of Salvation- Scarsick Dream Theater- When Dream and Day Unite Threshold- Wounded Land Opeth- Orchid
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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boo boo
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 07:53 |
Time & a Word, Tales from Topographic Oceans - Yes
Islands, Three of a Perfect Pair, Thrak - King Crimson
Obscured by Clouds, The Devision Bell - Pink Floyd
Edited by boo boo - May 21 2008 at 07:57
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zvinki
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 08:10 |
Rush's Vapor Trails. Although the recording may not be up to par, the songs are solid and some of the most emotional that Rush has ever written. Just "What It Is" is worth it.
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Real Paradox
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 08:14 |
well its hard for me t o specify some intentional albums from bands, or vice-versa, that the majority dislikes to show you on this thread but, i guess this will serve my purpose:
-Time and a Word - Yes -The Bedlam In Goliath - The Mars Volta - Gravity - Anekdoten - Falling Into Infinity - Dream Theater - Godbluff - Van Der Graff Generator - Lightbulb Sun - Porcupine Tree - Future Days - Can - Third - Soft Machine And I guess I can't remember more right now, I hope you liked it folks:):):)
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It is what keeps us going...
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Rocktopus
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 08:24 |
Real Paradox wrote:
- Godbluff - Van Der Graff Generator - Future Days - Can - Third - Soft Machine And I guess I can't remember more right now, I hope you liked it folks:):):)
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O yes I like them a lot, just like everyone else. These three titles are either considered being the band's best, second or third release by ... everyone.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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BaldFriede
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 09:25 |
A B Negative wrote:
I love Earthbound by King Crimson, probably for the same reasons most people dislike it! |
Once again you share our tastes! Jean and I love it too.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Christian
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 10:10 |
Tales from Yes
Octane from Spocks Beard
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Clepsydra
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 10:54 |
cacho wrote:
[QUOTE=febus] I Adore THE WALL, like THE FINAL CUT and solo WATERS. albums...not very appreciated on this site |
I LOVE "Amused To Death" a masterpiece!
I also love alot of neoprog albums that are panned here.
I am the "Neoman"
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Andrew A.
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 11:43 |
FInal Cut and Amused to Death for sure
Union also by Yes. Most of the band hated it.
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TerLJack
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 12:06 |
Well, I like "Somewhere I've Never Travelled" almost as much as Ambrosia's self titled first album. I know they started going a little more pop on this record, but songs like "I Wanna Know," "The Brunt," and "Dance With Me George" any prog band would be proud to own.
I think that if you took "Illegal Alien" off Genesis(Shapes) and replaced it with any of the songs off 3X3 (especially "You Might Recall"), you would have a classic from the 80's Genesis period. "Home By the Sea?" "Silver Rainbow?" Getting experimental on "Mama?" One of the most interesting slower commercial pieces in "Taking It All Too Hard?" The songs from 3X3 were ready, add one or two of those and it's almost as good as Duke. I said almost.
What's wrong with KC's Beat? Sure, it's not as good as Discipline, but way better than the wandering and aimless Three of a Perfect Pair IMO.
And what about artists who had Prog-anomaly recordings like John Miles' Zaragon? John sang with Alan Parsons, and this album has similarities to his work.
Todd Rundgren's occasional foray into prog like Initiation or A Wizard, A True Star? I know much of the rest of his catalog is not prog, but give the man his due for constantly changing direction and pushing the envelope. Utopia is here.
Angel's first self-titled? Even the following Helluva Band gets pretty close to what we call Metal Prog around here.
Bill Nelson's Getting the Holy Ghost Across? If you're gonna have David Sylvian sitting around here, you might as well invite Bill to the party.
Gary Wright? Hey! Who threw that?
Anyway, maybe a "Fringe Prog" section could be invented for individual discs that fit the genre but don't necessarily fit the artist.
Terry
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Genesister
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 12:36 |
Pain of Salvation's Scarsick is very, very underrated. It's also not anti-american. If you think it is then you really need to think harder.
Edited by Genesister - May 21 2008 at 12:40
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Pnoom!
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 12:39 |
80s King Crimson, particularly Beat. Almost as good as Discipline, but too pop for many prog fans.
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