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You're not the only one!

I saw Frank Zappa twice, once in 1984 and in 1987.

In my humble opinion, Frank Zappa was a genius. My favorite album of his is "One Size Fits All".
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He is a genius. He was on crossfire in the 80's as well as slew of other shows. During his interviews he stands his ground while making his hosts look like fools. Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
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Points: 3659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2008 at 11:28
Originally posted by Lionheart Lionheart wrote:

You're not the only one!

I saw Frank Zappa twice, once in 1984 and in 1987.

In my humble opinion, Frank Zappa was a genius. My favorite album of his is "One Size Fits All".
 
Mine too. Thumbs%20Up
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Points: 1065 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2008 at 13:15
Ahhh, I'm listening to FZ RIGHT NOW!! Big%20smile

Something that strikes me is how tight, how disciplined, how 'grammatically correct' his music sounds, compared to a lot of other stuff - next to a really great Zappa track, other music sounds sloppy and unfocused.  Yes, he was a control freak but... I forgive him. Smile

And it's great that there's something for everyone in the FZ back catalogue - even my boyfriend (who views most of my music collection with suspicion!) likes some of it!  (I think "our song" is SOFA. ^_^)
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I've got two Frank Zappa/Mothers CDs - ABSOLUTELY FREE and FREAK OUT.  F.O. is good and A. F. is brilliant.  I love the way it moves quickly from one track to the next and everything is in exactly the right order.  The words combine serious and humorous themes so that it is never flippant as such.  Some of the themes can be quite disturbing with a message in them.  It has grown on me more with each listening.
 
I still have a vinyl copy of WE'RE ONLY IN IT FOR THE MONEY which is a good album.
 
Frank Zappa was a great composer and he must have been very influencial on later prog bands like Soft Machine and Henry Cow.
The music I enjoy is complex; varied; deep and well played.
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Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

He is a genius. He was on crossfire in the 80's as well as slew of other shows. During his interviews he stands his ground while making his hosts look like fools. Check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc




Thanks for that link. 
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 10964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2008 at 15:46
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

^
^ I can kind of see your point.  But it seems Zappa's one of those artists, that was compelled to churn out stuff.  And it's really up to you what you want to listen to and collect.  The info and reviews are here to help you pick and choose.  I'd be surprised if even the most dedicated fan has collected and totally enjoys everything.  And new stuff is still being released.  I haven't heard of anything in that category that is particularly compelling.  I'd recommend sticking to the stuff that got a good airing when he was still alive for the most part.


have you heard Imaginary Diseases (2006) or Wazoo (2007)?

i rank those 2 up there with the best of FZ, since they are from the grand wazoo era.

question to everyone. When would you say Zappa peaked with his brand of jazz-fusion? some would say the Grand Wazoo era. some would say Hot Rats. some would say One Size Fits All/Roxy and Elsewhere. Some would say Overnite Sensation/Apostrophe era. Some would say the Lather/Zappa NY/Shiek Yerbouti era. i personally go with the One Size Fits All/Roxy and Elsewhere era, since he combined jazz, rock, humor, classical, blues, and everything in between perfectly IMO.


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Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Originally posted by Bornlivedie UK Bornlivedie UK wrote:

Originally posted by KrakAtack KrakAtack wrote:

I recommend the entire Apostrophe CD..............


This was how I got into Zappa, it's a really great album...


What annoys me is how everyone I know that's heard of Zappa just thinks he wrote gimmicky and funny songs. They don't realise what an amazing musician / composer he was. Such an underrated guitarist as well.
 
There is no one CD out there that can encapsulate all of what Frank was about, but Apostrophe blankets most of it.


IMO Lather comes sooooooooo close to summing up what Zappa was about. i dont even listen to Sleep Dirt or Studio Tan, or even Orchestral Favorites really, even though there's stuff. Zappa NY comes on because there's stuff on there that's not on Lather.

but idk, sometimes i feel like Lather is the ultimate Zappa album (as big as it is). it should have been released as it was originally intended. not the 4 off-shoot albums (except NY)


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I've got a Lather 3-CD set, which unfortunately was replaced by Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt, etc.  when they re-released the entire FZ catalog on Ryko.  I'd have to agree that it pretty much sums up much of the FZ experience.  The cover has a cow/meadow theme, maybe or maybe not a nod to Atom Heart Mother.
 
Then again, I've never met an FZ album I didn't like.
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

I've got a Lather 3-CD set, which unfortunately was replaced by Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt, etc.  when they re-released the entire FZ catalog on Ryko.  I'd have to agree that it pretty much sums up much of the FZ experience.  The cover has a cow/meadow theme, maybe or maybe not a nod to Atom Heart Mother.
 
Then again, I've never met an FZ album I didn't like.


I like it but Thingfish is fairly well reviled...
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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2008 at 09:17
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

I've got a Lather 3-CD set, which unfortunately was replaced by Studio Tan, Sleep Dirt, etc.  when they re-released the entire FZ catalog on Ryko.  I'd have to agree that it pretty much sums up much of the FZ experience.  The cover has a cow/meadow theme, maybe or maybe not a nod to Atom Heart Mother.
 
Then again, I've never met an FZ album I didn't like.


I like it but Thingfish is fairly well reviled...


 
Not one of my favorites, and certainly not the first album I'd recommend to someone just starting out with FZ, but there are some damn fine tunes on ThingFish.
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Points: 2078 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2008 at 09:31
Originally posted by KrakAtack KrakAtack wrote:

If nothing else, Frank was a vastly under rated guitarist..........


I agree,his guitar playing is controversial.I meet very few people who appreciate his guitar playing along with his ability to compose.





It hurts my feelings.



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Points: 7744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 27 2008 at 10:27
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

YOUR THE ONLY ONE!LOL



GRAAAAAAA

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