Most overrated prog band

Alright. 90% was a little harsh. Let's go with 84.2%

 

    

That 10% talent is about 9.99% more than your typical radio music band.

It was merely my opinion. And it's basically Emerson. He is good, but he, despite what he thinks, is not Mozart incarnate. Now, Wakeman however...

philippe wrote: lucas wrote: so the question is : do you like prog in general or are you just a lover of the experimental side of prog? ...you are not enterily wrong. It's true that I prefer by far the most experimental side of prog music...but I began to listen to prog with the same bands as you listen to...and I must recognize that there are great stuffs, but please not the common Asia...

OK, ASIA is  and I don't regard them as a prog band. About Canterbury/jazz-fusion, I really like National Health, Caravan (with Sinclair on vocals), Happy The Man, the first Gong album (yes, Camemebert Electrique is a canterbury album and not a space-rock one), the only Soft Machine album with Daevid Allen (I don't remember its name, it began with 'jet propeled...'). I once owned the two Hatfield records but despite some good moments, I must admit that it is no more something that grabs me. I have the same feeling about the post-Allen Soft Machine : too much improvisations and less written music. But you don't have to share my views on these records and I respect your tastes.

Most neoprog bands sucked in the 80s, as did most old school prog bands as they desperately tried to appeal to the pop crouds.

 Marrillion, attempting to fill the void left by the demise of a decent Genesis with pseudoprofound quasipomp, found a gap in the market in the form of thousands of middle class spotty faced, pretentious, dungen and dragon playing, Tolkien reading, girlfriendless teenaged boys. I know, I was there, and as my mates all ran off to buy the latest Twelthe Night/Pallas/Pendragon/Marrillion c**p I was off to stonehenge to see Roy Harper, the Enid and Hawkwind play in the Summer Solstice.

ELP were occasionally good but mostly not! Never enjoyed the vocals. Anything good they ever did was cancelled out by the trully awfull Love Beach. What the hell was that about??

Asia, like Kansas, Journey etc, are (fake)American stadium pop.

Roger Walters is probably THE most overrated progger, not least of all by himself. His ego is bigger than Fish's arse.

(God I'm enjoying this now.... maybe I should stop before I offend someone. oops, too late.........)

raggy wrote: Asia, like Kansas, Journey etc, are (fake)American stadium pop.

OH?

You just went past the Point Of Know Return there!

Stormcrow wrote: raggy wrote: Asia, like Kansas, Journey etc, are (fake)American stadium pop. OH? You just went past the Point Of Know Return there!

Sorry SC, I know they had their moments, and probably don't deserve being mentioned in the same breath as Asia (who, to my knowledge have NEVER ONCE had their moments). Nevertheless, there's still a faint odour of Toto/REO Speedwagon/Foriegner lingering around most of their later stuff, becoming ever stronger as time went by.

Stormcrow wrote: And from a strictly (non-prog) rock standpoint, what was so wrong with REO SPEEDWAGON?

"Riding the StormCrow Out", Yeah. REO had their moment as a very good rock and roll outfit, before "Tuna Piano, Tuna Fish." One of the best Live rock bands around. Fame has it's way of ing bands up. They change direction and TRY to write HITS, ugh. The p$**y must be really good to make bands screw their fans like that.  

The first 2 Asia albums were brilliant,although not especially 'proggy', but then Howe left and it went downhill.

I used to like Kansas but I've found over the years that their music hasn't worn well.They were never really in the same league as ELP, Yes or Genesis.'Death Of Mother Nature Suite' was their high point.Later on the mess of a track with the almost ironic title of 'Magnum Opus' typifies just how poor an excuse for a progressive rock band they became.They then drifted into the safe territory of AOR but became 'second division' at that as well. Bands like Boston and Toto were doing it a lot better.

 

I did suggest getting rid of it but was ignored.I think we have all had our fill of negativity towards prog rock and the bands we love.We all have our favourites and our least favorites in the genre.There's no point in dredging up ill feeling which is all this topic can do.

raggy wrote:  ELP were occasionally good but mostly not! Never enjoyed the vocals. Anything good they ever did was cancelled out by the trully awfull Love Beach. What the hell was that about??

Love beach is just different, i like it personally, its IN The Hot Seat which marked the fall of ELP....They break up leaving us with this?????  30 years of top quality music and then this!   it wasn't fair

philippe wrote: Stormcrow wrote: PROOF, Philippe!  We want to see the PROOF! Enquiring minds want to know! Ok...but ask me your question, and I will see next...I thought it was clear!

Just to clear some things up, the question was why you think ELP is overrated.