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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:49
As an old fogey I can't say I know what the hell this "emo" stuff is but I really can't imagine anything more degrading, unmusical and unprogressive as rap.  If it is then I hope I never hear it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:54
30 Seconds To Mars is a good Emo band and so far its the one that made me interested in the genre (at least the modern one). Their debut album does have some prog influences particularly from Tool, Pink Floyd and King Crimson to a lesser extent. There's a bit of Post-Rock thrown in there too.

Highly recommended if you're a fan of bands like Oceansize, Dredg, The Amber Light, Pure Reason Revolution, Muse and others like that.


I heard that their follow-up is less creative than their debut so try to avoid it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:01
From what I heard, I don't think 30 Seconds To Mars is emo at all. They're just alternative.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:12
They seem pretty emo to me, specially on their latest album. But in their debut album it isn't too noticeable except for Leto's vocal style.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 16:41
the commercial versions of both suck, but emo gave us Coheed and Cambria, Dearhunter, and to a lesser extent The Mars Volta, and so is rediemed. However I find that uncomercial Hip-Hop is more interesting, just listen to Madlib.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 18:50
^^^ Clap The Blue Note is a great instrumental Jazzy Hip-hop album. It's great to chill out to.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 18:53
Just went to Madlib's myspace page. It sounds really great...he's collaborated with MFDoom and J. Dilla, so he must be awesome.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 19:32
Rap... I like the political lyrics but the rhythm bord me after 30 seconds... Emo rock is awful too but at least has some creativity...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 31 2007 at 19:51
Originally posted by Hirgwath Hirgwath wrote:

Just went to Madlib's myspace page. It sounds really great...he's collaborated with MFDoom and J. Dilla, so he must be awesome.

You should check out his MF Doom collaboration, "Madvillain", ASAP if you haven't already. It's one of my favorite Hip-hop albums. Though having short songs, the flow and feel of the album is simply perfect.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:45
If you like Jazzy Hip Hop, I highly recommend the Blue Scholars.
 
Their 2007 release, Bayani is one of my favorite releases this year.
 
If you want something more varied, try Blackalicious or K'naan.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2008 at 01:14
They're tied, leave it. Both are terrible for the most part, rap has some alright guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Mos Def, emo is better overall than rap, but it has no artists that redeem it. I'm sorry, 30 Seconds and At the Drive-In suck. The best emo song is I Walk Beside You by Dream Theater.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2008 at 17:45
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

They're tied, leave it. Both are terrible for the most part, rap has some alright guys like A Tribe Called Quest, Mos Def, emo is better overall than rap, but it has no artists that redeem it. I'm sorry, 30 Seconds and At the Drive-In suck. The best emo song is I Walk Beside You by Dream Theater.
 
I Walk Beside you is normally the track i skip on Octavarium.
And yes, may as well leave it both emo and rap as equally as horrendous crimes against musicTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2008 at 17:59
however


If one were to combine emo and rap

working off of the "buttereside up toast on the back of a cat" principle

it would be the best genre in existence


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I'm off to go cut myself, motherf**ker


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2008 at 22:09
Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

however


If one were to combine emo and rap

working off of the "buttereside up toast on the back of a cat" principle

it would be the best genre in existence


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I'm off to go cut myself, motherf**ker

No it exists and it is terrible. Atmosphere, RJD2, Aesop Rock....not one in the bunch I like.
But the jazzy hip-hop concept intrigues me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2008 at 08:16
 Not everything is terrible what is rap or related.
 The bands I have heard classified as emo are utterly horrendous. Tokio Hotel and a Hungainan group, No Thankx. The name of the latter says all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2008 at 08:44
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

They seem pretty emo to me, specially on their latest album. But in their debut album it isn't too noticeable except for Leto's vocal style.

I'll say, i never thought that you would like a band with Jared Leto in it. :) Are you sure they are any good? I am very open to all sorts of music, really. I have given up on that "image"-thing, when i only listened to prog and thought i was so cool because i bashed power metal, but i have always thought 30 seconds to mars was aband which got airplay simply because Jared Leto was in it. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, however.

'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2008 at 15:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 01:21
^^ Oh come on, rap had the prestige of having "FIDDYSENT" among its ranks, you know, the guy that has that really cool song where he raps about being overly materialistic, hoes, violence and bling. Yeah, i'm sure people know that song i'm talking about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2008 at 19:20
Hm. I'm torn. The worst of rap (especially anything played on Radio One) is entirely unlistenable. I generally don't like the genre. However, emo rock has produced absolutely nothing that I like, while I've heard a couple of more considered rap pieces that I actually have warmed up to. No idea what they are, but they were OKish...

Emo "Rock" gets the vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2008 at 20:31
Well, now that I think of it.
 
Rap and Hip hop are completely seperate things.
 
Hip Hop is the sh*t you hear on the radio, complete with pimps and ho's, and goofy sounds to make a rythym.
 
Rap is The hardcore songwriting with very little backround noise to distract from the lyrics, featring groups like Immortal technique and Jedi Mind tricks.
 
I dont like either groups, but there is a lot more respect in respect in rap than hip hop.
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