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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:46
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

Tell them to come to Texas! We should also recomend them here on the archives.
 
They're here already.I was going to add them but my team mate Teo beat me to it.


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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:47
Really, I will spend some time on them and give them a review.
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Points: 9008 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2007 at 21:54
^^^ Great band! I've been playing them thoroughly since Jody recommended them to me some months ago. Thumbs%20Up

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Points: 1697 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 00:36
Texas? please, come north! Michigan needs you! and everyone knows Detroit is rock central baby Wink
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:23
 
I think I was misunderstood when describing math-rock
It has evrything good about punk: the energy, DIY attitude, and genral "f**k you" mentality but it also has the complexity and pretentiousness of prog.
 
 
Oh and we need to get Drive Like Jehu on the site, they are probablly the second most important Math-Rock band, right behind Don Cab
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Points: 65603 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:24
not sure about second most important, but they are considered Math
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:25
I got some Don Cabollero, thats pretty hard listening stuff.
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:26
^^^
come on, they have probably the biggest influence, they represent the punk-leaning side like Don Cab represents the prog-leaning side (imo)
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Points: 65603 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:27
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
come on, they have probably the biggest influence, they represent the punk-leaning side like Don Cab represents the prog-leaning side (imo)


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Points: 65603 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:27
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I got some Don Cabollero, thats pretty hard listening stuff.


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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:28
I dont know, I'm not too big a fan of non stop crazy complexity. I will listen a couple more times, but so far, I hear the grind core of math rock.
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Points: 11682 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:29
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I got some Don Cabollero, thats pretty hard listening stuff.

I didn't find them hard at all. Oh well.
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:30
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

^^^
come on, they have probably the biggest influence, they represent the punk-leaning side like Don Cab represents the prog-leaning side (imo)


Shellac


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how is that a response
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great band though
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 11 2007 at 21:34
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I dont know, I'm not too big a fan of non stop crazy complexity. I will listen a couple more times, but so far, I hear the grind core of math rock.
oh trust me there are grindcorier (is that a word) bands
 
oh and evryone should check out Cinemechanica (a band I am trying to add) and all of the other bands on Hello Sir (great math-rock label)
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Oh and we need to get Drive Like Jehu on the site, they are probablly the second most important Math-Rock band, right behind Don Cab


Here lies the problem with Math Rock. A lot of it isn't very Prog-sounding. Drive Like Jehu is a good example. Polvo, Chavez and Giant's Chair are three more. One could also make a case for Ethel Meserve and The Hal al Shedad.

The problem is that these would seem very out of place both in the Math Rock category and in Prog Related, yet Drive Like Jehu, for example, was one of the earliest bands to be labelled Math Rock, and Polvo and Chavez are also among the more important bands.

We need to somehow make a distinction between "Proggy" Math Rock and "un-Proggy" Math Rock.

Note that I don't consider the un-Proggy bands less good. They're highly recommended, especially Polvo.

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Make sure to get Lightning Bolt included, by the way. Very Hella-esque. June of 44 would fit too.


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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 15:58
Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I dont know, I'm not too big a fan of non stop crazy complexity. I will listen a couple more times, but so far, I hear the grind core of math rock.
 
I love Damon Che's drum work.The guy is amazing and an extremely underrated drummer.


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Points: 2819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 16:09
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I dont know, I'm not too big a fan of non stop crazy complexity. I will listen a couple more times, but so far, I hear the grind core of math rock.

 

I love Damon Che's drum work.The guy is amazing and an extremely underrated drummer.


Is he the drummer of Battles by any chance?
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 16:12
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

I dont know, I'm not too big a fan of non stop crazy complexity. I will listen a couple more times, but so far, I hear the grind core of math rock.

 

I love Damon Che's drum work.The guy is amazing and an extremely underrated drummer.


Is he the drummer of Battles by any chance?
 
No,the drummer for Battles is John Stanier,one of my favorite non-prog drummers.He used to play for Helmet (ClapClapClapClapClap) and more recently Mike Patton's band Tomahawk.


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Points: 11682 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 16:13
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Oh and we need to get Drive Like Jehu on the site, they are probablly the second most important Math-Rock band, right behind Don Cab


Here lies the problem with Math Rock. A lot of it isn't very Prog-sounding. Drive Like Jehu is a good example. Polvo, Chavez and Giant's Chair are three more. One could also make a case for Ethel Meserve and The Hal al Shedad.

The problem is that these would seem very out of place both in the Math Rock category and in Prog Related, yet Drive Like Jehu, for example, was one of the earliest bands to be labelled Math Rock, and Polvo and Chavez are also among the more important bands.

We need to somehow make a distinction between "Proggy" Math Rock and "un-Proggy" Math Rock.

Note that I don't consider the un-Proggy bands less good. They're highly recommended, especially Polvo.

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Make sure to get Lightning Bolt included, by the way. Very Hella-esque. June of 44 would fit too.

I suggested Lightning Bolt months ago informally.
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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 13 2007 at 16:24
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:


I suggested Lightning Bolt months ago informally.


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