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synthguy

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Posted: February 25 2005 at 21:37

One of the first "progressive" bands. They explored and
expanded upon all of the existing genres. And did a
masterful job of each.
The timing was brilliant.
I, (that's me, in case you were wondering), prefer the
later albums. The genius of George Martin and his
wonderfull arrangements. The introduction of orchestral
instruments into Rock and Roll, not to mention the
synthesizer ( Townshend did it better).
Three out of four excellent songwriters. (apologies to
Ringo, great drummer an vocal stylist). Groundbreaking
production.
Superfical? I don't thin

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synthguy

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Posted: February 25 2005 at 21:41

That's right, I don't thin. I keep getting larger...

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Rob The Plant View Drop Down

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Posted: February 25 2005 at 22:12

whoa, hold on there man, you're calling Paul a great songwriter. See you like the later stuff, ie-Bob Dylan influenced yes?

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synthguy

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Posted: March 01 2005 at 16:32

Rob,
Yes, in my opinion Paul is a great songwriter. I may
not care for his post Beatles pop style, but I will not
deny his ability. The "later stuff" I'm refering to
would be Rubber Soul and later.
Pea

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Chris Stainton View Drop Down

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Posted: March 03 2005 at 20:22

For me the Beatles are in league of their own, them and then the rest of music. They are quite simply...brilliant. The greatest and most influencial band ever. The amount and quality of their music in the short span of, what...eight years, is stagering. All modern bands owe something to the Beatles.

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Posted: March 04 2005 at 02:41

ivan_2068 wrote:

If I learned something during my life is that evolution or change is a process that can’t be stopped, determined persons are only the trigger that fire the change, but evolution is going to happen anyway.

Probably without The Beatles this change would have been different but musicians were already developing new tendencies. The feeling of musical rebellion against adults was there in the youth of the 60’s there’s no way anybody could have stopped them.

The Beatles were so exclusive that no other band had the chance or the need to develop but without them somebody had to take their place, other musicians would have been forced to take more risks and dare to impulse that change.

History is made by people but everything is a process, WWI would have been declared even if Archduke Francisco would not have been killed in Sarajevo, the nationalist and anti Semitic feeling in Germany would had caused a WWII even without Hitler, of course the development would had been different, but the feeling was there, at it would have exploded anyway.

I believe The Beatles are influential because they were there and did it, but nobody can stop the change, somebody would have taken their place.

As someone said this is speculative, but it’s also speculative to affirm that rock wouldn’t change without them.

Iván

Hey Ivan:

You don't need to shout we're neither deaf nor blind

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

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Posted: March 04 2005 at 20:29

If you want to hear how good the Beatles were get
the Beatles Anthology 3. Here are outakes and
alternative versions that dont appear on studio
albums. It deals with there latter period White Album,
Abbey Road,etc. period. Listen closely as they play
acoustic and improvised versions of hits, change
lyrics and generally goof around. They could have
made about 100 studio albums of great material if
they wanted to take the time. This is an important
document IMO of their unbridled abilites. No other
arists could put together 3 double albums of great
sounding stuff from a psychedelic period around 5
years long that is close to as impressive. Most
outake issues of bands are barely of interest to the
history of rock. They were unrivaled IMO.