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penguindf12 View Drop Down

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 14:57

what, exactly, is ska?

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 15:03

Go outside and look to the heavens! LOL

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 15:18

penguindf12 wrote:

what, exactly, is ska?

Ska is essentially Jamaica's interpretation of R'n'B, which in turn gave birth to the more mellow form, known as Reggae. Famous exponents of ska include Prince Buster, the Skatellites and Desmond Dekker. "2nd generation" ska bands in the late 1970s (mainly the "Two-Tone" record label collective), included Bad Manners and the Beat, with Madness having a go every now an den with their Prince Buster covers.

There have been many re-incarnations, and many would attribute the term to the music of No Doubt and the Mighty, Mighty Bosstones, among others.

But then there are many here who would say that Destiny's Child do not play R'n'B music, that Swing is a form of music from the 1940s popularised by Glenn Miller, that Radiohead aren't prog, and that oranges are like apples, only, like, different - y'know?

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 15:22

Definitions of Geek on the Web:

a person who may be very smart yet lacks the social graces of those who are considered cool , a "piano geek" is someone who spends too much time on the piano and has no social life.
OR:

Derogatory term for a person with limited social skills, and usually strong technical skills. While anybody can become a nerd, geeks are born, not made. The difference between a geek and Cert is that Cert has no redeeming qualities.

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 15:50

Reed Lover wrote:

Definitions of Reed Lover on the Web:

a person who lacks social graces and has no life. A Reed Lover is also known as a pink oboe player, and is someone that pays far too much time polishing the shiny round bit at the end of his instrument.

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Derogatory term for a person with no skills at all.

See also : Troll

A post that is intentionally inflammatory and which is typically an attempt to start a flamewar. One who posts trolls.

An annoyance usually on Messageboards who posts for the purpose of causing a disturbance. Often by making comments of a slanderous nature, accusatory, or just general pain-in-the-assness.

Couldn't have put it better myself

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 16:09

Vibrationbaby wrote:

This topic has been beaten to death on this site I play, but hate repeating myself.

You're a drummer, aren't you?

I remember you said you could wipe the floor with Neil Peart. Sure about that?? I guess you must be a full time proffesional musician. That kind of skill would be wasted in day job right

Anyway, I'm just coming out of 'retirement' as a drummer, having been puruaded by my girlfrind to get back into playing after about 8 years. My last project imploded. I'm working, not hard enough, with her and her brother to get a kind of prog metal band together. I wanted to play prog, her brother was quite up for that too, but she is a bit of a metalhead, and doesn't want to sing prog.

My fist band was an awful metal cover band called Dominion. My second band which ran for about 5 years was an Indie rock bandcalled klang4 Yeah I know!

We separted due to a clash of egos, between our guitarist and our singer.

Besides I wanted to record a collection of my acoustic numbers with the London Philharmonic, and work on a musical based on the life of Jack the Ripper

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 16:33

Certif1ed wrote:

Reed Lover wrote:

Definitions of Reed Lover on the Web:

a person who lacks social graces and has no life. A Reed Lover is also known as a pink oboe player, and is someone that pays far too much time polishing the shiny round bit at the end of his instrument.

OR:

Derogatory term for a person with no skills at all.

See also : Troll

A post that is intentionally inflammatory and which is typically an attempt to start a flamewar. One who posts trolls.

An annoyance usually on Messageboards who posts for the purpose of causing a disturbance. Often by making comments of a slanderous nature, accusatory, or just general pain-in-the-assness.

Couldn't have put it better myself

I am so glad you think that highly of me! LOL

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 17:55

Certif1ed wrote:

penguindf12 wrote:

what, exactly, is ska?

There have been many re-incarnations, and many would attribute the term to the music of No Doubt and the Mighty, Mighty Bosstones, among others.

wow! thank god you said ska came first. i get really annoyed by people who say reggea was first, BECAUSE IT WASN'T.

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Posted: November 25 2004 at 19:17

Prog_Bassist wrote:

asuma wrote:

along with the above mentioned, by useful_idiot, life after death. (album coming SOOOOOOOOOOONNNN!!!!!!!!!!1)

i play the keys in a ska band called acquired taste ( www.acquiredtaste.tk ). so far we don't have much of a prog taste, but i can tell you that we actually have some depth in our songs. i think we only have one saong that has the same tempo, and/or chord pattern all the way through. i would say our "progiest" sounding song is called funk-o-dub as it contains 3 very different parts, but still carry the same melody. it has the first ska, off-beat part, along with a swing tempo as the chorus, after 3 lines of verse chorus, ect. it goes into a full on swing instrumental part. then we're ending it with a funk part. we also have a song that would apeal to the punk rockers, has a juicy hardcore breakdown, and a circle-pit, drum line at the end. yyyyup. hope to blend ska with prog, or atleast have ska with prog elements.

www.acquiredtaste.tk

It says on the site your playing with Immaculate Machine, where are you from? I saw Immaculate Machine... I'm in Sydney Ns, where r u?

For the record, he and I are both in Victoria, B.C.

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 14:10

I play bass in a band, yes, the problem being that the rest of the band exists only in my head.

Listen:
Your friends have been broken. They've told us of your poison.
Now we k now.
KILL THEM!

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 14:29

That's not a problem if you have a copy of ACID and a keyboard

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 18:55

played in a band in Dallas club scene in the 70's and
toured the southwest occasionally. The band was
called Southern Cross and I played keyboards. My
brother plays bass and guitar hes 3 years older. He
was a member of a local blues rock band called
Kenny and the Casuals. We played mostly covers as
a 5 man band and a few originals. Found it to
unsettling with all the problems that go with band
BS. I played part time thru the 80s in a 3 keyboardist
band called Brainiac. We recorded and released a
few decent CDs but were never picked up, wasnt the
kind of music to promote in the 80s. During the 90s
me and my brother played local pubs as a 2 man
act, as weekend act. mostly Bob Marley, Billy Idol and
other covers as well as our collaborations.

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 19:08

DallasBryan wrote:

played in a band in Dallas club scene in the 70's and
toured the southwest occasionally. The band was
called Southern Cross and I played keyboards. My
brother plays bass and guitar hes 3 years older. He
was a member of a local blues rock band called
Kenny and the Casuals. We played mostly covers as
a 5 man band and a few originals. Found it to
unsettling with all the problems that go with band
BS. I played part time thru the 80s in a 3 keyboardist
band called Brainiac. We recorded and released a
few decent CDs but were never picked up, wasnt the
kind of music to promote in the 80s. During the 90s
me and my brother played local pubs as a 2 man
act, as weekend act. mostly Bob Marley, Billy Idol and
other covers as well as our collaborations.

Very Prog Ermm

Shouldnt you be trying the Justin Timberlake site?

http://www.justin-timberlake.org/

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 21:27

Blacksword wrote:

Vibrationbaby wrote:

This topic has been beaten to death on this site I play, but hate repeating myself.

You're a drummer, aren't you?

I remember you said you could wipe the floor with Neil Peart. Sure about that?? I guess you must be a full time proffesional musician. That kind of skill would be wasted in day job right

My fist band was an awful metal cover band called Dominion. My second band which ran for about 5 years was an Indie rock bandcalled klang4 Yeah I know!

We separted due to a clash of egos, between our guitarist and our singer.

Besides I wanted to record a collection of my acoustic numbers with the London Philharmonic, and work on a musical based on the life of Jack the Ripper

I am currently helping a band to get on their feet but have no intention of pursuing a srerious musical career any further due to other commitments. I prefer jazz drumming but love to help out budding young musicians regardless of their musical inclination. This band happenns to be a thrash/metal band and I have no reservations about helping them out until they can find a regular drummer. Imight add that I am 20 years older than the youngest member in the band!

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 21:34

I'm working on a solo project right now called Incarnadine. While things have been going slowly, I've managed to pull a few songs together recently. I have a lot of unfinished works though, mostly due to not having what I need to finish them, like a certain instrument, the right sample or the technology to produce either of them. My 4-track has a built in drum machine that I've exhausted, so for Chirstmas I'm getting a real drum machine. I've got so many ideas for it, I can't wait to get it.

i don't have any songs on any websites or anything, I'm just recording and recording until I get enough that I want to put together on a cd. I'm not worried about playing live either, I don't know that it'll happen right now. I have yet to find anyone else that I feel I can really work with on the project, so that makes it kind of hard at times. But it's a alot of fun, I wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't.

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Posted: November 27 2004 at 23:14

yeah, i have a holiday list of things i need to get:

mixer
monitors
shure 58 mic
...and a synth

but woe is me, i have so little money

that sounds cool spanky. any advice for me as i start on my recording adventure?

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Posted: November 28 2004 at 00:07

hhehe, i was in a dum band, but i quit, or rather, they kicked me out because

1. im a horrible, horrible singer 2.i can't remember shat for crap. 3.i argued all the time what kind of music to play and make, all they wanted to do was punk sh*t, they called my music stupid and annoying. eventually they just got rid of me. were still friends !

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Posted: November 28 2004 at 01:19

These kids I play with actually possess talent and we even play a version of 21st Century Schizoid Man!

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Posted: November 28 2004 at 04:34

Eddy wrote:

hhehe, i was in a dum band, but i quit, or rather, they kicked me out because

you're better off without them if all they're interested in doing is punk. Seriously I cannot figure out why this very limited style of music has thrived as long as it has.

DEATH TO PUNK!

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Posted: November 28 2004 at 14:18

Punk is starting to fade....it's just a matter of time and tastes. When prog got too big in the 70's, punk came and everyone openly hated prog. Punk'll last forever, as long as there are bands who can't play too well. But as punk bands and other rock bands continue, they'll start experimenting, and eventually re-inventing prog. Most people now don't know prog exists, and the punks don't really know either, so inevitably it will regain some sort of hold (as it already has begun to, somewhat). Also, with the rise of XM satellite radio, prog will be played more and people will get chances to hear it. "Studio Lab" and "Deep Tracks" on XM already play a lot of prog (esp. Studio Lab), and if XM becomes mainstream and people discover stations like those, prog will be easier to find. Right now, the only way to get into it is thru Pink Floyd or some of the more open bands. But that should soon change...

....maybe.

Anyway, I play bass and can play all of part one of "Thick as a Brick" and the first 6 minutes of "Gates of Delirium". I also played piano for 2 years when I was 7 or so and can read music fairly well. If I relearn the piano (not that hard) and learn electric guitar (harder, but not too hard given I already have calusses), then I could easily be a one-man band! (not that I'd want to, it'd just be useful for conveying ideas if I can play all instruments)