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Points: 28427 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 18:21
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Yet it has been translated The Miracle, I have a copy on my computer, I'll find the link for you!

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master.txt

Original Russian version.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master_engl.txt

A 1967 translation.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master97_engl.txt

I have read that this is the best translation (from 1997), but I guess it's down to opinion.

It could take quite a while, I've yet to read it myself, but I plan too.

I know it's illegal, so shh!

I've just read Franz Kafka's "The Judgement", I love Kafka, he makes you think and I like a book that makes you think.  I love "Metamorphosis" as well (also by Kafka).  A true genius and fits my mood about the world precisely too!

The 1967 translation of Bulgakow doesn't have the complete text. The reason for that is that the Russian edition itself was not complete at that time. And it is an excellent book. German composer York Höller made an opera out of it; Jean and I saw it once.


Yes, It's incredible! Great that it has been translated (at least partially...) to English.

Read it!
 
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Points: 10266 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 18:24
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Yet it has been translated The Miracle, I have a copy on my computer, I'll find the link for you!

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master.txt

Original Russian version.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master_engl.txt

A 1967 translation.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master97_engl.txt

I have read that this is the best translation (from 1997), but I guess it's down to opinion.

It could take quite a while, I've yet to read it myself, but I plan too.

I know it's illegal, so shh!

I've just read Franz Kafka's "The Judgement", I love Kafka, he makes you think and I like a book that makes you think.  I love "Metamorphosis" as well (also by Kafka).  A true genius and fits my mood about the world precisely too!

The 1967 translation of Bulgakow doesn't have the complete text. The reason for that is that the Russian edition itself was not complete at that time. And it is an excellent book. German composer York Höller made an opera out of it; Jean and I saw it once.


Yes, It's incredible! Great that it has been translated (at least partially...) to English.

Read it!
 

I already did, years ago, and it is a great book. Incredibly funny.


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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 18:33
The 1997 version, as far as I know, is completely translated into English, it's only the 1967 version that's not.  All versions are listed above.  I'm not sure which year that Russian version I linked above is though.

A lot of the Russian puns were missed in the 1967 translation as well I believe, but I could be wrong about this, lots of Russian words can mean different things and the translation are harder because of this.

I will read it one day, I have a huge list of reads.

I need to complete Borges' - The Garden of Forking Paths.
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Points: 28427 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2006 at 18:38
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Yet it has been translated The Miracle, I have a copy on my computer, I'll find the link for you!

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master.txt

Original Russian version.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master_engl.txt

A 1967 translation.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master97_engl.txt

I have read that this is the best translation (from 1997), but I guess it's down to opinion.

It could take quite a while, I've yet to read it myself, but I plan too.

I know it's illegal, so shh!

I've just read Franz Kafka's "The Judgement", I love Kafka, he makes you think and I like a book that makes you think.  I love "Metamorphosis" as well (also by Kafka).  A true genius and fits my mood about the world precisely too!

The 1967 translation of Bulgakow doesn't have the complete text. The reason for that is that the Russian edition itself was not complete at that time. And it is an excellent book. German composer York Höller made an opera out of it; Jean and I saw it once.


Yes, It's incredible! Great that it has been translated (at least partially...) to English.

Read it!
 

I already did, years ago, and it is a great book. Incredibly funny.


Yeah

And very wise, too.
 
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Crime fiction? You got to read Kinky Friedman. He's an ex-country and western singer turned novelist who writes about a guy named Kinky Friedman who is an ex-country and western singer turned private investigator. He's got a unique way with words.

"I had a bad experience with drugs once, it lasted just over ten years."

"I was woken up that morning by the cat doing tai chi excercises on my scrotum."

 
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Points: 2506 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 04:52

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Yet it has been translated The Miracle, I have a copy on my computer, I'll find the link for you!

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master.txt

Original Russian version.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master_engl.txt

A 1967 translation.

http://lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master97_engl.txt

I have read that this is the best translation (from 1997), but I guess it's down to opinion.

It could take quite a while, I've yet to read it myself, but I plan too.

I know it's illegal, so shh!

I've just read Franz Kafka's "The Judgement", I love Kafka, he makes you think and I like a book that makes you think.  I love "Metamorphosis" as well (also by Kafka).  A true genius and fits my mood about the world precisely too!

The 1967 translation of Bulgakow doesn't have the complete text. The reason for that is that the Russian edition itself was not complete at that time. And it is an excellent book. German composer York Höller made an opera out of it; Jean and I saw it once.


Yes, It's incredible! Great that it has been translated (at least partially...) to English.

Read it!
 

I already did, years ago, and it is a great book. Incredibly funny.


Yeah

And very wise, too.
 

Excellent book, yeah!
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 05:56
Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Crime fiction? You got to read Kinky Friedman. He's an ex-country and western singer turned novelist who writes about a guy named Kinky Friedman who is an ex-country and western singer turned private investigator. He's got a unique way with words.

"I had a bad experience with drugs once, it lasted just over ten years."

"I was woken up that morning by the cat doing tai chi excercises on my scrotum."

 

Yep, although I think that his more recent books have been a little disappointing. The first 6 (handily published in 2 omnibus editions in the UK) are all excellent and laugh out loud funny.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 11:31
Just ordered lots of Jorge Luis Borges, I'm looking forward to them immensely.

I've always liked Charles Dickens myself, his characterisation and plotlines always intrique me.
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2006 at 20:08
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Points: 9669 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 26 2006 at 01:08

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Bill Bryson- Travel/Comedy

Bryson is great!Clap

So far, I've read A Short History of Nearly Everything, and In a Sunburned Country. Really terrific, funny, informative, thought-provoking & massively ENTERTAINING stuff!Thumbs Up

In a similar vein, ever try Redmond O'Hanlon?

 Into the heart of Borneo was "un-put-downable" (as they say), and I'm in the middle of his latest, Trawler, right now -- very good!Big smile

 

 
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