Halloween

European snobbery indeed...  You guys should get your facts straight!!

"The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by Irish immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that time, the favorite pranks in New England included tipping over outhouses and unhinging fence gates.

The custom of trick-or-treating is thought to have originated not with the Irish Celts, but with a ninth-century European custom called souling. On November 2, All Souls Day, early Christians would walk from village to village begging for "soul cakes," made out of square pieces of bread with currants. The more soul cakes the beggars would receive, the more prayers they would promise to say on behalf of the dead relatives of the donors. At the time, it was believed that the dead remained in limbo for a time after death, and that prayer, even by strangers, could expedite a soul's passage to heaven. "

http://wilstar.com/holidays/hallown.htm

Oooh, I'm getting to talk about prog and an education in Irish/American history at the same time.

How cool is this forum?

for all you kiddies and grown ups who feel a need to get back to your roots on Halloween I am sure the History Channel will air The History of Halloween again....as they have for years now.

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When I was growing up, "Toccata" by ELP was used
as the theme song for the "Creature Double Feature"
every Saturday afternoon on Channel 56 in Boston. I
can still remember the quick cuts of monsters,
ghouls, and Godzilla kicking the crap out of some
poor monster to the opening 30 seconds or so of
that song.

Good God...what wonderful memories!

Pierre

oliverstoned wrote: threefates wrote: European snobbery indeed...  You guys should get your facts straight!! "The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by Irish immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that time, the favorite pranks in New England included tipping over outhouses and unhinging fence gates. The custom of trick-or-treating is thought to have originated not with the Irish Celts, but with a ninth-century European custom called souling. On November 2, All Souls Day, early Christians would walk from village to village begging for "soul cakes," made out of square pieces of bread with currants. The more soul cakes the beggars would receive, the more prayers they would promise to say on behalf of the dead relatives of the donors. At the time, it was believed that the dead remained in limbo for a time after death, and that prayer, even by strangers, could expedite a soul's passage to heaven. " http://wilstar.com/holidays/hallown.htm OK But your today's commercial celebration has nothing to do with this ancestral traditions. And the meaning is completely lost and unknown from the americans (and europeans) kids.

Well in this case I think thats a good thing... They've turned a holiday about begging for cakes for prayers to release the souls of their dead loved ones... for bright faces on children dressing up and getting candy.  I'm sorry, but if you can find that a horrible change, then I'd hate to be one of your kids.....

threefates wrote: OK But your today's commercial celebration has nothing to do with this ancestral traditions. And the meaning is completely lost and unknown from the americans (and europeans) kids.

Well in this case I think thats a good thing... They've turned a holiday about begging for cakes for prayers to release the souls of their dead loved ones... for bright faces on children dressing up and getting candy.  I'm sorry, but if you can find that a horrible change, then I'd hate to be one of your kids.....

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3FT8's- I start a non-incendiary thread and you turn it into a Yank-Bashing Dirty-Bomb.

Who gives a toss where Halloween comes from-it aint gonna go away.

Talk about starting an argument in an empty room!

Have you no girlie-work to be doing?

Greg.. what are you laughing at... you're more of a girlie than I am...

oliverstoned wrote: Absolutely OK But i find halloween to be a ridiculous celebration Typically american... Sorry

Actually that just shows an American biasness... I was in Scotland last year at Halloween... and the kids and the communities were enjoying it just as much there.... At the leisure center where Carl Palmer played in Loch Gelly, I had a "Blood Red" stew for lunch with Slime Green Rice.... very appetizing...

Wanst she's goat a few ay they Ell-Ohs in hur, she goes pure aff her heid. 

I couldn't care less what anyone THINKS about Halloween or any countries festivities. If you don't like it, change the channel.

 As long as no-one gets hurt.... have fun.

 

Here's my new costume for this years Halloween:

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