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Arsillus 
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 Posted: February 03 2006 at 21:07 |
It's good, it's getting better. I was pleased with his performance on Octavarium, but some of the earlier stuff... 
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Posted: February 03 2006 at 22:25 |
My favorite album is AWAKE, by Dream Theater.
Labrie's voice there is nothing short of amazing! 
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W.Chuck
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Posted: February 04 2006 at 03:55 |
 rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice. |
Yes! I just mentioned this "Pull me under" performance as an example since it's the worst I know. He's terrible on every live album. Of course he became better later, but in the studio he has been always better!
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:35 |
W.Chuck wrote:
rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice. |
Yes! I just mentioned this "Pull me under" performance as an example since it's the worst I know. He's terrible on every live album. Of course he became better later, but in the studio he has been always better!
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It's amazing what you can do with Antares 
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:42 |
Rashikal wrote:
im kind of embarassed to even own dream theater cd's. |
Damn... I'm actually embarrassed people write stuff like this... I mean we are all humans!
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:46 |
Ive been listening to a prog metal band called STRIDE , anyway my point is STRIDE have dream theater chops but they also have a great singer with a voice like (Brad Delp) from Boston , for this reason I enjoy Stide lots more than Dream Theater (if you like dream theater you would be nuts not to check Stride out, its amazing what a great singer can offer !) Labries voice is OK in the studio but its no match on the guy from Stride , take a listen I think you will agree
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:46 |
Certif1ed wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
rushaholic wrote:
Ty1020 wrote:
W.Chuck wrote:
But I agree that he sounds better in the studio. Just listen to
"Pull me under" on "Once in a Livetime", the instrumental performance
is great, but his vocals (in this track) are the worst I've ever heard!
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Don't judge his live performance abilities on a recording from over a
decade ago. He wasn't very good back then, no, but if you've seen him
live within the past year, it's clear that he's worked very hard to
change that as he now sounds at least as good live as he does in the
studio.
I'm a big fan of his voice, personally. It's certainly not the most
accessible tone in the world, but there's something about it that I
love.
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Absolutely not true. I was so excited to get the Live at Budokon and then utterly dissapointed when I heard his voice. It was shouting, not singing. And it was poor shouting BTW.No, his voice during live performances has not gotten better. Recent performances only prove that he has an awful voice. |
Yes! I just mentioned this "Pull me under" performance as an example since it's the worst I know. He's terrible on every live album. Of course he became better later, but in the studio he has been always better!
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It's amazing what you can do with Antares
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I saw that you posted here, and I knew exactly what you posted. Dream Theater are true perfectionists with their albums, and I support them using recording technology like Pro Tools to get the best possible result for an album. This doesn't subtract at all from their musical genius. No matter how many effects or how many remixes are done to a song, it will always sound like the human being playing or singing the song. The best result comes from when a band mixes their natrual talent and creativity with the technological enhancements of modern musical recording and mixing.
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 17:54 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
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It's amazing what you can do with Antares
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I saw that you posted here, and I knew exactly what you posted. Dream Theater are true perfectionists with their albums, and I support them using recording technology like Pro Tools to get the best possible result for an album. This doesn't subtract at all from their musical genius. No matter how many effects or how many remixes are done to a song, it will always sound like the human being playing or singing the song. The best result comes from when a band mixes their natrual talent and creativity with the technological enhancements of modern musical recording and mixing.
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I rather think you miss the point.
Do you know what Antares is?
http://www.antarestech.com/
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 18:07 |
I was listening to "Images and words" yesterday and I couldn`t help but thinking that if there is one small problem with it and the problem is in the vocals, for me labries voice starts off OK but after a few tunes starts to bug me theres something in James Labrie`s tone , I can`t put my finger on , I hope what I am saying doesn`t offend anybody but I believe DT would have lifted in people impressions had they got a fantastic singer like the guy from STRIDE. Dream Theater should have aimed for mass apeal by investing time in a formula that works by using a melodic voice with excellent range somebody that sings like 70`s Kansas`s Steve Walsh or Boston`s Brad Delp.
DT sacked Charlie Dominici but atleast he sounded like Geddy Lee a bit, thats a start 
In many ways its as if DT didn`t want a singer with great vocals to overshadow their musicality but I think if the target is mass apeal vocals are the key
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sleeper
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 18:12 |
I dont know what it is with this bashing of Labrie, he has very distinct vocals that people can either love or hate (personally I love them, I could never hit those high notes). As far as the studio goes, he shows the range in his vocals on every album, and I'm guessing its this amazing range that led DT to add him to the line up. On the Live In Tokyo I&W DVD he was growling and shouting a lot and his vocals sucked there and I dont think it did him any good because after I&W I dont think his vocals were as good until Scenes.. but since he has been fenominal, especially on Live At Budokan. I believe he also has an opera singing coach now witch helps to explain the constant improvement in his vocals these last few years.
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sleeper
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 18:14 |
s1ipp3ry wrote:
I was listening to "Images and words" yesterday and I couldn`t help but thinking that if there is one small problem with it and the problem is in the vocals, for me labries voice starts off OK but after a few tunes starts to bug me theres something in James Labrie`s tone , I can`t put my finger on , I hope what I am saying doesn`t offend anybody but I believe DT would have lifted in people impressions had they got a fantastic singer like the guy from STRIDE. Dream Theater should have aimed for mass apeal by investing time in a formula that works by using a melodic voice with excellent range somebody that sings like 70`s Kansas`s Steve Walsh or Boston`s Brad Delp.
DT sacked Charlie Dominici but atleast he sounded like Geddy Lee a bit, thats a start
In many ways its as if DT didn`t want a singer with great vocals to overshadow their musicality but I think if the target is mass apeal vocals are the key
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They sacked Charlie because he wanted to take the band in a more comercial direction, something that the others didnt agree with.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: February 18 2006 at 18:18 |
Certif1ed wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
(...)
It's amazing what you can do with Antares
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I saw that you posted here, and I knew exactly what you posted. Dream Theater are true perfectionists with their albums, and I support them using recording technology like Pro Tools to get the best possible result for an album. This doesn't subtract at all from their musical genius. No matter how many effects or how many remixes are done to a song, it will always sound like the human being playing or singing the song. The best result comes from when a band mixes their natrual talent and creativity with the technological enhancements of modern musical recording and mixing.
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I rather think you miss the point.
Do you know what Antares is?
http://www.antarestech.com/
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Yes, producers often use it in studios to get voices that you can't exactly make yourself.
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Rockin' Chair
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 04:58 |
James Labrie's voice is the only thing I don't like by Dream Theater.
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jesperz
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 12:35 |
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Another subjective question, oh well....
Technically, i think James LaBrie did quite a good job. He got all his
vibrato and stuff controlled well... Well, in live, DT actually played
3 hours plus rock show, maybe his parts are 1 and a half hours. But
what the heck, it is still long hours of singing... So technically he
is good, that is something i can't deny..
Timbre of his voice, well, subjective.. Some may like it, some may not.
Voice timbre actually is a very difficult thing to please all ppl. At
least he tried his best on the technique. You can actually tell he is
improving since IMages and words all the way up to octavarium.
So..... To sum up my reply, Technically he is good, but voice timbre is
a very subjective question and i didn't want to comment anything on
that. LOL.. Neutral Neutral!
Cheers!
Z'
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Emiaj
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 20:35 |
James LaBrie's voice sounds so similar to Robbie Williams' 
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CryoftheCarrots
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 21:31 |
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I first heard a Dreamtheater live cd and thought great band but the vocals terrible.Too much vibrato etc.Then I was given Octavarium, what a difference.That album sold me on Dreamtheater.I think LaBrie over extends live but in the studio he shines.
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Fede
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 22:07 |
For me he has an AMAZING voice. All the musicians on Dream Theater are amazing too. I think he has the best progressive metal voice, no doubt. Albums like "Images and Words"," Awake" and "Scenes from a Memory" shows it at his best. A lot of people don't like his voice:
WHY?????????????
I really don't know.
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jesperz
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 22:26 |
Fede wrote:
For me he has an AMAZING voice. All the musicians on
Dream Theater are amazing too. I think he has the best progressive
metal voice, no doubt. Albums like "Images and Words"," Awake" and
"Scenes from a Memory" shows it at his best. A lot of people don't like
his voice:
WHY?????????????
I really don't know.
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Most likely is about the timbre of his voice... =)
Z'
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Mharo
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Posted: February 19 2006 at 22:32 |
I think Labrie's voice is the main reason that I don't enjoy DT a lot. He's quite good in some songs, but usually I don't like his timbre at all (such a shame  ).
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Sean2989
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 00:59 |
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Being a colector of Dream Theater Bootlegs and Live CDs as well as all there studio ablums, he has lost some of his punch over the years. Since his vocal surgery he has lost some of the clarity in his voice but he still has the same amazing range that he has always had...... By far some of the best live tracks come from Live at the Marquee and Live Scenes. I think that he has a great voice, as well as a very adapitable one as well, if you span his carrer with DT you can find alot of diversity between the CDs which show that he can sing and well!
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