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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 12:35

I don't think people are as polarized by Rush as the originator states.  I used to be a big fan of Rush in the Hemispheres-Moving Pictures days, and used to play bass in a band playing lots of Rush, but got tired of them after the Grace Under Pressure album.  I still think their older music is okay, but am not particularly interested in the later stuff.

I guess it's a phase people go through, like the way Kiss was once so hugely celebrated, and now they're just another historic rock band.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 12:47

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 14:44
I like them, but I dont go nuts about them!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 14:46
hmm... maybe bechouse their music sucks  muahahah. not really. they are ok
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:19
Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Its always seemed weird to me Rush are a band I find most people either love or hate theres little room in between those two reactions to them, my question is how come nobody likes Rush apart from their fans ?   Almost nearly every band has its casual fans but with Rush it seems its either hardcore or its nothing


Its not Rush and has happened for many years
When I was at school (Oh god here goes the old buffer again) anyhow the following were all love oir hate bands and never the twain did meet

YES
ELP
King Crimson
Captain Beefheart
Genesis
Mahavishnu Orchestra

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:23
I've tried to convert a couple of my acquintances to become Rush fans like myself, but failed on both cases. My guess is Rush wasn't metal enough for them, the band kind of goes half way into that direction, but are not heavy enough to be classified as a proper heavy metal / hard rock band. Also, to quite a degree this topic broadens to a larger question: "why people don't like progressive rock". It's strange to an average listener!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:27

From personal experience, it seems that people's main problem with the band is Geddy's voice. It just irks some people to death, apparently. I personally dig Rush quite a bit, and I enjoy the vocals.

I've been spinning Hemispheres a lot lately.

And I also like Caress of Steel! The weakest track, in my opinion, is the Necromancer, but of course it is still pretty good. Probably one of my favorite Rush albums, overall.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:32
I LOVE Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:54
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

It is nothing but a personal opinion, as I always state my personal opinion in here. I don't put a sticker "personal opinion" on my messages. Their music is hollow, it doesn't give me anything; they just about reproduce every possible cliché. So they are overrated, in my opinion. If you are of the opinion they are not overrated, fine.

Your opinion is totally valid if their music doesn't impact on you emotionally. We are all different, after all.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say they reproduce every cliche, though. Are you able to give examples? I'm sure there may be some guitar riffs in their repetoire that are Zep, Who or Purple inspired, but lets be honest the whole genre of prog rock generated it's own cliches after a few years in existence like all musical genres do. Wouldn't you agree?


It may be because I did not hear any music of Rush until lately; perhaps I would think differently had I experienced them while I grew up, as I did with most of the other prog I listen to. Rush are not very popular in Germany, at least not to my knowledge. While I acknowledge their musical abilities on their instruments, their music does not seem to be very original to me; also it has no really rough edges (and by "rough edges" I don't mean "loud and distorted guitar"). They are just a bit too ordinary for my taste; I prefer something more extravagant.

As Syzygy rightly says, they were very derivative at the beginning, by their own admission. They were real Zep and Who freaks and this really shows on their debut and the following two albums, but they soon found their own style and sold huge amounts of albums on the back of that. Not many 'cliched' or derivative bands go on to be so successful.

With regard to no rough edges, I know why you say that, but this is part of their charm. Their sharp, tight musicianship is what sets them apart. It's their trademark. I would say they were far from ordinary. I would say they are unique and thats their selling point and part of their appeal. That said, Alex Lifesons guitar is quite rough, almost punk sounding on their late 70's albums, and Permenant Waves. This deliberate rough edge stands out beautifully against the tight rhythim section, IMO.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:56
I don't love them or hate them. I think they're good, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 15:57
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Bart Bart wrote:

I love Rush and I'm very happy because my wife does too

I can't tell what album I love the most. I think Caress of Steel  is highly underrated.

Farewell... as well as Fly by Night and 2112 rulez ! And many others...

And at the end, I enjoyed very much the newest live DVD R30

 

I've always loved 'Caress of Steel'  It doesn't seem to be a very popular album.

I never really liked "The Necromancer" or "I think I'm going bald" (a bit too close to reality these days) but the rest of the album is excellent. Bastille Day, Lakeside Park and the Fountain - all good stuff. I must get that album again some day. Haven't heard it for a while.

I love the Necromancer, it's not perfect but after By Tor it was their first lengthy and conceptual work. I think it was a fine effort, but I would agree about '..Going Bald' It's the same for me these days too!  You'll know me when you see me next week. I look like a cross between Jimmy Somerville and Phil Mitchel..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:13

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Its always seemed weird to me Rush are a band I find most people either love or hate theres little room in between those two reactions to them, my question is how come nobody likes Rush apart from their fans ?   Almost nearly every band has its casual fans but with Rush it seems its either hardcore or its nothing

Well, from reading this thread, there seems to be a few people who just like Rush so I guess you can rest easy knowing there are some of us who view them more in the middle.

Yes, i am indeed, also one of those guys who merely just  like them. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:29
Originally posted by W.Chuck W.Chuck wrote:

Originally posted by Shark Sandwich Shark Sandwich wrote:

I don't hate Rush but I don't care for them much,either. I find most of their other stuff to be boring.


same with me


Yup. And I really tried. I even have own four of their albums (A farewell of kings, Hemispheres, Permanent waves, Moving pictures). Each three stars at best for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:33

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

They are overrated indeed, and I don't like them at all.

wow- what a stupid statement

 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:36

Rush is pretty good. I just don't love them because there music never does too much for me and alot of the songs sound the same to me. I just think that they are way less creative than other prog bands. Also, Geddy's voice is annoying on some songs.

This is all my opinion of course.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 16:43
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

They are overrated indeed, and I don't like them at all.

wow- what a stupid statement

 

She is entitled to her opinion and I thought she clarified it quite well in a later post, as to why. That is good enough for me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 17:19
Rush > Yes > King Crimson

those are my prog gods

rush introduced me to prog, so they remain my favorite band of all time

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 17:26
Its a Rush thread so I got to give my 2 cents - I think they're the Greatest!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 17:53

I don't like Rush, except for a few songs (Tom Sawyer, YYZ, The Camera Eye). I like Peart's playing and I like some of the bass lines, but...the bottomline is: Rush is still a big enigma for me  . I can't understand what's so special about them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2006 at 18:00

I don't hate rush nor dislike them, is just that I do not find them better than any of my personal favorites which Rush is not...

 

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