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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 16:51

Every attempt Dream Theater has ever made at a ballad has failed miserably, and I feel embarrassed for them. Their latest, "I Walk Beside You," was by far their worst, but really any DT ballad is horrendously full of cheese. When they're rocking out with insane keyboard/guitar tradeoffs they're great, but they can't do "sentimental" songs to save their lives. And don't even get me started on TransAtlantic.

Spock's Beard entire "Snow" album is full of cheese. Open Wide the Floodgates... *shudders*

The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 16:58
Mmmmmm.... cheese... mmmmmmmm....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 17:40
I must say that for, probably the cheesiest band ever is the Flower Kings...thought I like to discrive them as muchy, rather than cheesy...then there are the few songs from Spocks Beard I heard...I find Morse vocals kinda cheesy...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 17:41
Most modern prog bands are cheesy as hell... that's what puts me off a lot of them.
The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 17:54
i recently deleted all of spocks beard mp3's off of my HDD because it reeked of cheese. that nad i havent listened to them in at least a year

listen to Hella
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:18
I can't help finding Jon Anderson being cheesy quite regularly...Homeworld lyrics are a mouse's banquet:

Truth is a simple place
Here for us all to see
Reach as it comes to you
As it comes to me
As I will always need you inside my heart

Peace is a word we teach

A place for us all to reach
Sing as it sings to you
As it sings to me
As I will always need you inside my heart



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:35

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I must say that for, probably the cheesiest band ever is the Flower Kings...thought I like to discrive them as muchy, rather than cheesy...then there are the few songs from Spocks Beard I heard...I find Morse vocals kinda cheesy...

I can definately see that, with TFK

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 18:50
Originally posted by progaeopteryx progaeopteryx wrote:

Mmmmmm.... cheese... mmmmmmmm....


I do enjoy a slice every so often. Though let's not take the cheesy comments seriously. Besides, I think those elements of cheese are what make Prog music fun at times. Besides sometimes the most cheesiest moments are the one's that are the most sincere and emotional.

Let's not let prog music become so serious, that we can't have a little fun.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 19:03

Transatlantic is cheesy!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 19:55

Most Italian prog sounds quite cheesy.

And of course Dream Theater (though I like them) - Pull me under, surrounded, learning to live, the whole Scenes from a memory...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 20:53
But I like some cheese , cheese is nice 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 21:12

Cheese is pretty very tasty at times ... and id have to agree with the dream theater comment about the ballads Hollow years being the epitome of it, but you gotta love 'em anyway. Also..Kamelot! im suprised no one has mentioned them yet. cliches swimming in pools of cheese  Even their name, Kamelot, i love it anyway!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 23:01
Chesse, Wine, Fireplace & Love... (new prog band...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 23:09

Many bands have their share of cheese:

  • Genesis ABACAB, when they used the EW&F horns
  • ELP: Love Beach, from the cover to the last song (Except Canario).
  • Yes: Circus of Heaven, Don't Kill the Whale and a lot of lyrics.
  • Kansas: Vynil Confessions

Just to mention four.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 23:16

I actually love some Styx like Mr Roboto its fun to sing when ur drunk same with come sail away there as cheesy as hell if there prog i sure dont think so even though i think they sound like a crappy Rush.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2006 at 23:24
Originally posted by Hemispheres Hemispheres wrote:

I actually love some Styx like Mr Roboto its fun to sing when ur drunk same with come sail away there as cheesy as hell if there prog i sure dont think so even though i think they sound like a crappy Rush.

Funny, when I'm drunk with a couple of  friends (One is metalhead and the two others are progheads)  I do one of two things:

a) Sing Mr Robotto (If we're playing poker)

b) Play the Come Sail Away piano intro and try to sing it. (If we're on a card break)

They always pretend to be angry, but this is like a tradition between us.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2006 at 00:21

Pain of Salvation's BE

Allmusic's review of the album sums things up better than I ever could:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:r6ge4j27 7waw\

As for some of the other bands listed, I do enjoy listening to Magic Pie, Dream Theater, and Spock's Beard (although I think ever since Nick D'virgilo took over the cheese has lessned to some extent, that is when it's not completely saturated with it like on parts of Ballet of Impact and most of A Guy Named Sid. Still it's doubtful Neal could ever pull something like Ghosts of Autumn out of his ass. ANYWAY......) I must admit, I find bands like Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Opeth, Coheed and Cambria, and most other Prog that has a metal/alternative rock influence to be much better in the lyrics department.......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2006 at 03:08
Originally posted by Littlewashu5 Littlewashu5 wrote:

Pain of Salvation's BE


Allmusic's review of the album sums things up better than I ever could:


http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:r6ge4j27 7waw\


As for some of the other bands listed, I do enjoy listening to Magic Pie, Dream Theater, and Spock's Beard (although I think ever since Nick D'virgilo took over the cheese has lessned to some extent, that is when it's not completely saturated with it like on parts of Ballet of Impact and most of A Guy Named Sid. Still it's doubtful Neal could ever pull something like Ghosts of Autumn out of his ass. ANYWAY......) I must admit, I find bands like Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Opeth, Coheed and Cambria, and most other Prog that has a metal/alternative rock influence to be much better in the lyrics department.......



That's gotta be the worst review of BE ever written.

Shadow Gallery has some cheesy moments.
"Come down with fire
I want to love you want to take you into my heart
We'll cruise the starways
And from the moment that we touch our love turns into a crystalline dream
Fly where your dreams go
With open eyes it's the dawn and you're alive
No time or space here
I walk in castles of gold
Our love turns into a crystalline dream" - Crystalline Dream

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2006 at 03:10
Originally posted by erlenst erlenst wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Page to Squire Page to Squire wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Heart Of The Sunrise is just a biit cheesy,don't you think?

especially Wakemans parts. It almost ruins the song, Pure Bree



I would go for Anderson's voice... (not saying by this that it is not extraordinary...just...a little unusual)
 

 That is absurd, borderline INSANE ! His vocal parts on Heart of the Sunrise are some of the definite highlights in prog history. I can't imagine a person in his right mind, who actually listened to this song with an open mind, not getting captivated by the pure beauty of it.

Don't be that angry. Not borderline insane, just bad taste and quite bad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2006 at 03:45
all of the above, esp. styx & transatlantic

however, i wonder why no one has yet mentioned
PENDRAGON yet, the ultimate grand-masters of
cheesedom. without doubt the top end of the
cheesiness scale. cheez-o-rama galore... etc.
progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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