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Miles Davis: the greatest prog artist of all-time?

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Poll Question: Is Miles Davis the greatest prog artist of all-time?
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Interesting points, especially about temporality of these movements, which can get a bit distorted in the historical imagination. But I still question if improvisation vs. structure is the issue. I know we're talking about Miles, but how would we place (e.g.) the highly composed Wayne Shorter albums of the 80s, vs. the highly improvised jams of a lot of British jazz-rock? I think the aesthetic argument is more on point (though also can get blurred a lot--for instance compare the last National Health album to the aforementioned Shorter albums). It would just be nice if the aesthetic perception didn't break down so neatly along racial lines.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote GuruCan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2024 at 04:55
Originally posted by proto-baldrick proto-baldrick wrote:

It would just be nice if the aesthetic perception didn't break down so neatly along racial lines.
It does not break down along racial lines. For example, 'Concerto for Jazz/Rock Orchestra, Pt. 1-4,' by Stanley Clarke, is one of the best jazz-rock suites ever recorded. Or 'Stratus' by Billy Cobham, which is quite an iconic jazz-rock instrumental. Fortunately, it is not possible to build a wall between two very similar genres, and the border between them has always been very fluid and permeable and will remain so.




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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I may have asked this in another thread, but what is his most "prog" album? Not talking about "progressive Jazz/Fusion", but "Prog"[/IMG]
I can't think of any.
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"it is not possible to build a wall between two very similar genres, and the border between them has always been very fluid and permeable and will remain
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I agree!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2024 at 11:01
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I may have asked this in another thread, but what is his most "prog" album? Not talking about "progressive Jazz/Fusion", but "Prog"[/IMG]
I can't think of any.


While I don't consider Miles Davis albums to be Prog-genre, some of the stuff has a kind of Prog-related Jimi Hendrix-y experimental rock feel.

Here is a track off the live album Agharta:



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