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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21499 |
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This is such a troll thread
Original sounding prog bands that started post 1979 Cardiacs Swans This Heat Vezhlivy Otkaz Talk Talk Radiohead PoiL Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Thinking Plague Upsilon Acrux Electric Masada
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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Talk Talk was a post punk/new wave alternative band. the same as Radiohead, is from todays standards! I know and I am fan of Thinking Plague. Fantastic band! I mentioned in a comment ealier as mentioned the drummer whom partipated in severals RIO bands. The rest I have to check them out. I am listening & watching in YouTube now a band called PRESENT! a live performance in 2015. FANTASTIC!!.
Rock In Opposition festival in France.Edited by DarksideofAbel - June 12 2024 at 20:39 |
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21499 |
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I attended the last 9 RIO festivals in France and saw Present at least three times there, always excellent. Check out their most recent album released this year. The drummer I think you are referring to is Dave Kerman - Present, Thinking Plague, 5UU's, Aranis, Blast, etc. Talk Talk & Radiohead started out as post punk/new wave but changed their sounds into something original and wholly their own.
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Most music after the 70's was a mistake. We seemingly collectively decided that becoming masters of our instruments was lame and that playing power chords really loud and programming instruments on a computer was clearly a much better product. f**king nonsensical garbage
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5815 |
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this is what I mean by production gear: ![]() Examples of my favorite produced albums from 1979 (all genres): •Modry Efekt - Svet Hledacu •The Buggles - The Age of Plastic •Michel Normandeau - Jouer •UK - Danger Money •Triana - Una Historia |
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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that is simply because musicians are more concerned about what will make them money and fill seats at shows rather than creating interesting music, because the average listener doesn't care about music like they did in the 60's and 70's. Radio is dead. Music stores are dead. Sam Ash just closed its doors, Guitar Center is next. People used to do side by side tests on stereos in audio stores for hours before making a decision when the general public cared about music. Stereo systems and speakers were incredibly powerful. Today the average person is more interested in spending $1000 on a bigger screen to watch TikTok.
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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After I was done with Prog! I moved on to Jazz!. ECM and such!!!
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DarksideofAbel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 06 2024 Location: Santo Domingo Status: Offline Points: 177 |
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well, vinyl is doing a huge come back!!! but I know exactly what you are talking about!
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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With all due respect, in my opinion it is precisely the technical progression that destroyed prog music and music in general. Limitation breeds creativity and there was creativity in spades amongst early prog, it's what separated itself from the ultra popular (and imo extremely good) pop rock of the time. Doing more with less, becoming masters of the limited machines available and getting everything possible out of it. Of course things had to progress eventually and change but it doesn't mean it has been 'for the better'.
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GoodDay ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: June 09 2024 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Unfortunately, the recent vinyl comeback is just a way for millennial hipsters to feel different and superior to their ultra shallow and plastic peers. And can't forget the 15 Taylor Swift variants per release that get impulse bought by mindless drone consumers.
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Snikle ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 27 2022 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 69 |
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There will be plenty of younger prog fans such as myself waiting with bated breath... I hope that's not too morbid
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5815 |
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The real decline began with the advent of digital samples. But that's a different time period. |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Online Points: 46332 |
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your arithmetic is not working.
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ProgSynonym ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2024 Location: Los Angeles Status: Offline Points: 181 |
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OMG, like, totally check out this rad example of the epic 1986 masterpiece by the UK band Edge! It’s, like, not even neo-prog style but still super obscure! |
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Online Points: 5291 |
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What a ridiculous statement!🤣🤣🤣 |
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Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18359 |
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Hi, THAT was the commercial stand ... after the downfall of FM radio in America, and I would venture to say that many record companies went after all the fads, to ensure they made money ... and they succeeded, and ... we ... think that all of that stuff was worth while ... witness the many publications these days (USA Today and many others) continually doing articles on the fad bands ... to ensure they can get more money out of it! I was "there" at the start, the middle and the continuing story ... I never gave up ... and it is embarrassing when we see a "progressive music/rock" fan disdain a period of music ... and continuously support the commercial standard that is today ... and not stay around for the new music. I find it bizarre that anyone of us would think that folks lost their ability to play and create the art they created. That is the sign of a person that is not listening, or is stuck in a time warp ... and I like to say ... too much dope and not enough reality!
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20519 |
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It's certainly a drastic and extreme opinion, but in some ways, but not completely untrue. ![]() I mean, what has been done with music since incorporating electricity? ![]() For 50 years +, electricity only served when playing back records and of course its recording itself and manufacturing the supports and equipments. For decades; the only electric instruments were the electric guitars, mainly for blues and RnR (ok and Django) However, in the mid-60's, when Jazz (Miles) and folk (Dylan) started integrating electricity, it was howled at ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In just over a decade, it seems like the whole new continent was explored and conquered, except for maybe a lost valley somewhere in the mountains that came to light in later decades. Whatever came after that golden period was only rehashing : Little groundbreaking has really happened except going louder (extreme metals or hardcore punks) and more repetitive (techno stuff) and quicker (music defined by bpm >> beats/minutes) Maybe music should find its next revolution (expand into infra and ultra sounds ![]() .
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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