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moshkito
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Hi One of the things that has kept me in music all these years, is the different stuff. I was never a listener that looked for something that sounded like, or was like ... kinda thing, and this is where Guy Guden (we were roommates for a long time during the first years of Space Pirate Radio and shared music collections) was valuable and important .. .he had the knack and touch ... so even right there in 1974, he would play a full side of Klaus Schulze, or a full side of Tangerine Dream, and come back with lots of Faust, Can, Amon Duul ... and right away you knew ... what your taste and touch was ... not the same stuff as everyone else. Even stranger, and it got many comments, was hearing Magma on the air ... in 1974 on a number 1 FM station! The value of the rio/avant and really out there stuff is ... so under rated, and very important, and this is where things like Eno, in his first albums ... was far out ... way out there as an example. Thus, things that might be considered way out there and bizarre, sometimes, have more logic in their work than is visible, since our minds are infected with the more conventional sound ... and this is difficult to tell folks ... when you only listen to the same thing, the minute you get a piece that is harsh and different, it won't click ... This is the reason why sometimes I like to say ... get a Carl Stalling CD, which has some of the music used for many cartoons and see if you can pick up the visual from it ... it's really hard ... and all it says is that the ears are not quite tuned to that side of "music". And this is the huge problem in pop music and what I call the numbers music ... or the top of the pop music ... your ability to really enjoy the odd stuff takes a beating. It ends up, btw, making you re-define "music" for yourself! Edited by moshkito - January 18 2024 at 20:14 |
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Saperlipopette!
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For me in the last couple of years, it's kind of accidental if I discover a new band under the prog umbrella. Unfortunately (I suppose) I'm not exited for anything "prog in itself" any longer. But all these mentions of PoiL has had me curious. I started with their latest: Yosh*tsune - which I had picked up somewhere that had some relation to japanese traditional music (Heikyoku). That was really more of a selling point than Brutal Prog:). Hugely enjoyable at first listen and Junko Ueda's Biwa-playing makes all the difference to me. His singing to a lesser extent, but it fits and makes for a more intrigung listen. I'll keep going backwards from here. And I see that I have to check out their Ukandanz-project as well - because of the Ethio-Jazz link.
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LAM-SGC
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I have to ask,what is fw?
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all the birds are leaving, But how can they know, it's time for them to go? Before the winter fire, I will still be dreaming, I have no thought of time. |
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richardh
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Dapper~Blueberries
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I should check out PoiL some day. They look strange and goofy, which is my type of avant music. Also yeah black midi is such a great band. |
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In Genesis vs The Residents, I asked which group was proggier under one's own definition of "prog". |
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Dapper~Blueberries
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Not gonna lie, I cannot in good conscience call Residents prog. They're certainly avant-garde, and I could see them as an influence in the space of stuff like RIO or more Zappa-esque workings, but they certainly aren't of the same boat as avant-prog music of say Art Zoyd or This Heat.
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