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MikeEnRegalia 
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 Posted: October 19 2005 at 07:47 |
 oliverstoned wrote:
It's like choosing between the plague and the cholera. |
the plage ... I thought that was Black Metal and Death Metal.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 07:59 |
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There's always worst!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 08:02 |
oliverstoned wrote:
There's always worst! |
Yes ... Can - Landed for instance.
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Bj-1
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 08:02 |
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 10:35 |
I see You've just warmed up.... Let the flaming begin! Take no prisoners!!!!! Spare no one!
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Dream Theater
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 15:44 |
Dream Theater = 29 votes
Queen ; ;
= 29 votes
Wow! 
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King of Loss
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 16:07 |
^ Yea, either people really suck or just are close-minded elitsts 
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 16:24 |
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There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer. Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums.
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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King of Loss
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 16:31 |
^ And on parts in Six Degrees too
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 17:31 |
King of Loss wrote:
^ And on parts in Six Degrees too |
I spite thee! Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is a brilliant album through and through.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 17:43 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer. Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums. |
Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.
Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material?
And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band.
I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 17:57 |
Certif1ed wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer. Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums. |
Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.
Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material?
And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band.
I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there...
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That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music.
BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 18:11 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer. Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums. |
Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.
Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material?
And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band.
I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there...
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That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music.
BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted.
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i totally disagree, maybe if you were to say that Queen II is more creative than a single Dream Theater album, you might have a fair position. You error in saying that it's more creative than the entire Dream Theater discography. Let me reminded that this discography spans from a hair metal progressive album with Charlie Dominci on When Dream and Day Unite to Progressive Thrash Metal on Train of Thought. This alone means that Dream Theater has had a varied career. Going further into creativity, how can you doubt a band that makes a song like Dance of Eternity, a straight ahead tech song and throws a ragtime piano solo in the middle, or the brilliance of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which i consider to be a musically flawless albums, especially after studying it.
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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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drumsandbass
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Posted: October 19 2005 at 18:16 |
Sorry but DT is way more talented in this case. There music never seems
boring to me and theyve got Portnoy and Petrucci! Although Mercury buries
LaBrie in the vocal department, but then again so do many other people
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 00:19 |
Don't care for the genre, their music has coherence and structure I can't find in DT.
Iván
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Fraja
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 07:25 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer. Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums. |
Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.
Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material?
And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band.
I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there...
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That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music.
BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted.
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i totally disagree, maybe if you were to say that Queen II is more creative than a single Dream Theater album, you might have a fair position. You error in saying that it's more creative than the entire Dream Theater discography. Let me reminded that this discography spans from a hair metal progressive album with Charlie Dominci on When Dream and Day Unite to Progressive Thrash Metal on Train of Thought. This alone means that Dream Theater has had a varied career. Going further into creativity, how can you doubt a band that makes a song like Dance of Eternity, a straight ahead tech song and throws a ragtime piano solo in the middle, or the brilliance of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which i consider to be a musically flawless albums, especially after studying it. |
I agree with Certif1ed Queen II is MASTERPIECE!!What exactly is Train of Thought...........progressive?????I don't think so............
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 07:29 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
There is no way i would ever consider Queen to be better than Dream Thetaer. Queen was somewhat original for their time, but Dream Theater is a band that i consider to be one of the most creative ever despite the lack of creativity in the later two albums. |
Queen II is far more creative than all the Dream Theater catalogue combined.
Dream Theater are many things, but original is not really one of them - now let's be honest here. Where are the borrowed riffs in any of Queen's material?
And hand-in-hand with originality goes creativity. And the scope of Queen's work is phenomenal - practically unmatched by any band.
I could start with the unparalleled vocal harmonies and go from there...
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That's quite unfair. Queen II was written in the early 70s, Dream Theater started in the 90s. When I listen to 80s Queen I hear a LOT of borrowed riffs. And even in their 70s work there are MANY concepts they took from 20s/30s/40s music.
BTW: It's funny ... I saw that you had posted in this thread and knew EXACTLY what you had posted.
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i totally disagree, maybe if you were to say that Queen II is more creative than a single Dream Theater album, you might have a fair position. You error in saying that it's more creative than the entire Dream Theater discography. Let me reminded that this discography spans from a hair metal progressive album with Charlie Dominci on When Dream and Day Unite to Progressive Thrash Metal on Train of Thought. This alone means that Dream Theater has had a varied career. Going further into creativity, how can you doubt a band that makes a song like Dance of Eternity, a straight ahead tech song and throws a ragtime piano solo in the middle, or the brilliance of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, which i consider to be a musically flawless albums, especially after studying it.
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Your post doesn't have anything to do with mine. The highlighted statement couldn't be more far from the truth ... it's obvious that you intended to answer to Certif1ed's post.
Let me summarize my post in simple words:
- I don't think that Queen are better than Dream Theater.
- I don't think that Queen II is better than any of the Dream Theater masterpieces ... it MIGHT be better than WDADU.
- The bands are not really comparable anyway.
Edited by MikeEnRegalia
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 07:31 |
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Its bloody daft comparing these bands as most prog metal fans will vote for DT and non prog metal fans will vote for QUEEN...anyways ye keep bringing up this one album that queen has released...and QUEEN bores me to tears with their boring and non inspired melodies
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 07:35 |
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Actually, there are some pretty divine melodies on Queen II ... Fairy Feller, White Queen, Ogre Battle, Black Queen ... and on their other albums as well. IMHO one might even say that Queen are one of the ten bands with the best sense for melody.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 20 2005 at 07:37 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Actually, there are some pretty divine melodies on Queen II ... Fairy Feller, White Queen, Ogre Battle, Black Queen ... and on their other albums as well. IMHO one might even say that Queen are one of the ten bands with the best sense for melody. |
Master of melody=Iron Maiden...listen to Sign of the cross...nobody is better in terms of timechanges
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