Yes~The Quest

Cristi wrote: SouthSideoftheSky wrote: ARW failed to deliver a new studio album, so bringing Anderson and Wakeman back together with Howe would probably not have helped to make new music anyway. how did they fail? They have not even tried...  I hope they make a new record, just to annoy Howe...

Catcher10 wrote: I can't imagine pre-ordering this album, unless they are only going to make like 2,000 or so but it's not being labeled Limited Release. I suspect it will be available readily, and the CD may end up being discounted by November.  Jon Anderson is the Voice of Yes, always will be. With Squire gone now it makes Jon even more important if they wanted to continue as Yes....I just have a hard time calling this lineup Yes.

I think Yes are turning into a cover band of themselves, I would not go see them unless Jon and Rick were apart of the live show.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - July 11 2021 at 11:38

dougmcauliffe wrote: ^ Unlike Styx, Yes just hasn't been able to do a passable job with modernizing their sound and I think it's also the members too. Yes sound very tired, low energy, and they just don't have the dexterity they once did. Contrast that with the modern lineup of Styx, even if that band isn't your cup of tea, they consistently bring a great show and for my money, a strong recent output too that sounds fresh rather than watered down imitations of their best work. For example: Dennis Deyoungs recent solo output.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - July 11 2021 at 11:41

rik wilson wrote: I was wrong about Dean's death... misinformation,Sorry.

SouthSideoftheSky wrote: Dellinger wrote: About Sherwood, I'm more concerned about his contributions to writing and producing music, than his ability to play the bass. Look at the credits for Heaven & Earth and it should be clear that they needed another writer in the band. Of course nobody wants the new Yes material to sound like a Billy Sherwood solo album, so let's hope that they've taken a democratic approach when composing the new songs. ARW failed to deliver a new studio album, so bringing Anderson and Wakeman back together with Howe would probably not have helped to make new music anyway.

Sure Yes needs help to do new music, since the 90's they have been using old unused music in order to coplete their albums... many times those have been the best songs, and now that they didn't use any such old songs on Heaven and Earth, it was clear they needed the help. Yet Sherwood isn't the answer. His own albums and projects have not been so great (at least not at the level we would want to for a Yes album), and even when he collaborated with Yes on The Ladder and Open you Eyes it didn't go well (two of my least favourite Yes albums)... I don't know how much he might have written for those albums, if anything at all, but he must have had something to do with the sound, the production, or something, because the vocals had the same sterile quality that his own projects have... and that guess what? if I remember correctly, Sherwood was responsible for the vocals production on Heaven and Earth... and it's just when the vocals come in on that album that any promise a song might have goes plummeting down.

siLLy puPPy wrote: Why is it so hard for old horses to go out to the pasture and die? Everything has an expiration date. I'm with those who consider Magnification their last great effort. Perhaps they need an album called Nursing Home Nightmares. It might be more appropriate.

siLLy puPPy wrote: KC has displayed a longevity that's quite impressive for sure. I'm not saying horses need to go die because of chronological age. I'm talking about a complete collapse of creativity which makes them irrelevant. Even David Bowie cranked out one of his best albums before he went bye bye. Nothing against the Yes members but indeed Howe has been stale for quite some time now :(

cemego wrote: Prediction:  This will sound like a bad Asia album (for production value/song writing), with a voice that sounds like a flat Mickey Mouse.   SO against this.  Get a new band name at least.  This smacks of desperation.  Not having it.

cstack3 wrote: siLLy puPPy wrote: Why is it so hard for old horses to go out to the pasture and die? Everything has an expiration date. I'm with those who consider Magnification their last great effort. Perhaps they need an album called Nursing Home Nightmares. It might be more appropriate.  Great commentary!  Some old horses are doing fine - King Crimson continues to amaze IMHO.  I've seen them twice in their recent incarnation (Jakko on backing guitar & lead vocals), they were superb both times.   This is Howe's band, and I don't think he's proven himself to be a great bandleader - GTR blew up, Asia teetered and fell, his own solo projects don't impress etc.   At least Sherwood has some cred from being a former band member - I just don't think he's all that good. There are many talented bassists who could do at least as well, although Squire was a unique genius for his playing and signing.   We'll see, I'm not expecting much.