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Raff
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Another couple of suggestions - this time from bands that are not on PA (Fotheringay are in Prog-Related). The first one is probably rather well-known, as it was recorded by one of the top bands of the Eighties, and was quite successful when it was released as a single in 1989. The folk connection here is in the music, which comes from the traditional Irish ballad "She Moves Through the Fair" (which was recorded by a whole lot of people): The second one is way more upbeat than my previous suggestions. The band in question is yet another Cardiacs offshoot, featuring the ubiquitous Kavus Torabi, and the song comes from their album of sea shanties by the very literary title of Upon a Painted Ocean: |
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Raff and Micky, it's great to see you back.
Raff, your 2nd selection shows unavailable for me. I know the song title, but if you give me the name of the aritst, I will look and see if there is an alternate that I can listen to.
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Thanks to both Nickie and Kees for your very insightful and helpful comments.
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Enjoying this one. Some great selections. It's going to be tough to vote on. Nice variety. I don't listen to or have much folk music in my library, but not because I don't enjoy. I'm going to take advantage of the breadth offered by The Anders and go with music with folk elements here. So, let's take a trip around the world. First up is James Holden and the Animal Spirits. Holden was a student at Oxford studying mathematics who turned to DJing and being a techno artist/producer. For his third album, he took an more organic sound incorporating elements of psyche, prog, and folk, among others. This is the appropriately titled "Spinning Dance". Next, we go across the pond to the Bay Area for the Tin Hat Trio (now just Tin Hat since they expanded from being a trio). They are filed on PA under RIO/Avant-Prog and classified as Chamber Jazz by AllMusic. They play acoustic with elements of contemporary music, jazz, blues, folk, and whatever else they want. Founding member and violinist Carla Kihlstedt was also a founding member of the excellent (but different) Sleepytime Gorilla Music (also RIO/Avant-Prog on PA). Here, I'll offer a couple of tracks from the album Helium, one instrumental and the other with unmistakable guest vocals from Tom Waits. "Width of the World" "Helium Reprise" Then, let's jet on over to Japan for Hanafugestu. I've posted a track by them before, many months ago, but as 'bonus' track. File this as Japanese Pop Folk. The trio consists of a shakuhachi (bamboo flute) player, koto player and singer/pianist. "Crimson" Next stop is Italy with a track by Unfolk, the moniker for Venetian mandolin player/multi-instrumentalist Alessandro Monti. This track is from the concept album "Book of the Venetian Dead" about vinyl factory pollution in the 70's and 80's leading to cancer in Venice. He collaborates on this one with British singer/songwriter Kevin Hewick whose career goes back to the 80s and Factory Records. This track has a decidedly 80's feel with Hewick's vocals reminding me of some solo Peter Murphy. "Bedroom Discotheque" Lastly, we head back to the Bay Area and then head on to Tuva. Wasn't planning on this one, but it turned up on my random shuffle as I was typing this. I have recommended the move "Genghis Blues" somewhere on PA before. It's a documentary about a blind blues musician Paul Pena, who self-teaches himself Tuvan throat singing. He then is invited to compete in a throat singing competition and the movie is about that trip and competition. Excellent movie. This is from the soundtrack. A bluesish number with throat singing. Paul is the deeper throat. "Tuva Farewell" Edited by mathman0806 - March 20 2021 at 19:45 |
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Snicolette
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Thoughts on the latest entries:
Raff: Fotheringay with Sandy Denny, “Banks of the
Nile” One of the best showcases for Sandy,
who is one of my favourite female singers of all time, wonderful choice for
those who may not know of her. Known to
me, so I can’t vote for it, BUT…..this is very haunting and as gorgeous as only
Sandy Denny can decorate a song. The instrumentation
supports her vocals perfectly, as should be.
It is stellar, we are lucky to have what recordings we have of hers, for
as you know, her life was tragically short.
For those of you who don’t know of her, she is well worth seeking out,
with this collaboration, her solo works and also with Fairport Convention and
very early Strawbs. Simple Minds “Belfast
Child” What a beautiful rendition of
this classic Celtic song. I had not
heard this, it is just so very moving, with Jim Kerr’s deep voice and the
violin ornamentation and orchestral swell behind in the mix. Electric guitar
joins as the song gains in intensity, and then the song slows and fades to a
close. Admirals Hard “Whip Jamboree/Let
The Bulgine Run” This is done is a sea
shanty, with concertina played on keys, it looks like and multiple voices,
pipes (also on keys, it appears) and a steady strummed guitar. There
is a hurdy-gurdy also in the visuals, it just comes in in small parts here and
there and then near the end, there is a longer lead played upon it. This is a great sing-along type song with a
repeating chorus. Micky: Nice to see you back, too! Gordon Lightfoot “Black Day In July” This one I know also, as you probably guessed, but I am a GL fan. This has his superb voice with a sort of blend of folk and country instrumentation. This one tells the tale of race riots in Detroit in 1967, a time I remember well, and sadly, am still seeing to this day. A moving topical piece that could still be covered, especially with a few modern updates on the lyrics. |
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Thank you for your thoughts on these, suitkees (and your acceptance of my so-much-harp in my various entries). I find that Milladoiro piece very haunting, it is one of my favourite songs.
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Raff
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If you mean the second video in my post, the band's name is Admirals Hard. Their album is also on Bandcamp.
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TCat
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Sorry, my bad. I meant your 2nd selection "She Moves Through the Fair" which would have been your first video in your 2nd post...the one you posted above the Admirals Hard video.
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Raff
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That's Simple Minds, "Belfast Child".
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The Anders
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My second contribution is a modern take on a traditional Danish folk song. The so-called 'folkeviser' (German: Volksweisen, English: folk ballads) are songs that have been taught from generation to generation, so no-one knows who actually wrote them in first place. Of course they have changed a lot over time. They are typically strophic and have a narrative structure of some sorts. Most of them were written down in the 16th and 19th Centuries. "Bonden og elverpigen" (The peasant and the elf girl) was written down by N.F.S. Grundtvig some time in the 19th Century if I remember correctly, but its origin is obviously a lot older. Sorten Muld have made a name out of modernizing these old folk songs by mixing electronic sounds with more traditional folk instruments, a bit like the Swedish/Finnish band Hedningarna. The recording is from 1997. |
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Thanks. That's actually a favorite of mine.
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And here, my final contribution; this time we go to Greece. It's from a CD of tradtional songs from the Greek islands. |
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Thanks for your always very keen comments. Perhaps what you have identified as an Italian way of singing (Italianate sound) depends on the fact that both Adriano Celentano and the Stormy Six are from Milan. Milan is in northern Italy, and the Milanese have an accent that has an inflection that comes in part from France. In central and southern Italy there is a great variety of dialects and inflections, Italy having been a land of passage, colonized by many peoples. The first song, The boy from via Gluck, is sung with a strong Milanese accent, the singing is precisely cadenced in order to make the Milanese speech heard.
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My next (and probably final) contribution is a song from Naples with an American connection. Though more recent than most of the material recorded by Nuova Compagnia di Canto Popolare - an ensemble that has been active for over 50 years - this song, written in 1944, is very well-known in Italy, and has its roots in the dire situation of the country at the end of WWII. Based on a true story, the song is about a boy born with dark skin - the child of a Neapolitan woman and a Black American GI. When I was in high school, the band came to perform at my school, and I still remember how much fun we had, dancing and singing along to their music. |
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Oh, I remember... I have something Danish to play actually... some friends of mine try (tried... before C. ) to get tickets for whoever plays in Hamburg's marvellous new Elbphilharmonie (which is normally sold out within minutes but they have some talent to see where something can be snatched), and they got to see the Danish String Quartet playing their folk based Wood Work album there and were mesmerised. And they played the album to me, and I was, too. Sonderho Bridal Trilogy Part II. Here's the Elbphilharmonie... It took much longer to build and was much more expensive than planned and people were up in arms against this "waste of money" - but since it's ready, everybody loves it. Edited by Lewian - March 21 2021 at 16:58 |
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The Elbphilharmonie somehow makes me think of those paper hats from Burger King...
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First thoughts on Page 3 thus far, plus some additions:
George: James Holden & The Animal Spirits
“Spinning Dance” Begins with some guitar
washes and finger cymbals, then goes into a happy swash of keyboards
underneath, as the guitar swells in and out.
Guitar begins to play a more forceful lead and drums kick in. This is all done in a very quiet way, in
terms of the production. There begin to
emerge the sounds of chanting-type voices, really intriguing wriggly bits of
keyboards and guitars interplay, there are sounds of either very controlled
feedback or perhaps violin-type strings and whistle-type sounds, with some more
inter-layered vocalishness. Very
excellent spacey folkishness here. Tin
Hat Trio “Width of the World” Repeating
bass line starts and some almost-sitarish bended guitar notes. There is a keyboard underneath at times for
depth, it sounds like, or perhaps a bowed instrument or accordion, as the sound
becomes more pronounced. There is a
Delta blues-ish or Cajun nod here, as well, in the guitar style. This sounds much more like an accordion or
concertina now, as you can hear the reeds parts and the glisses on the keyboard
more clearly. This instrument goes off
into a jam with the other instruments.
Now a bowed instrument enters the room, jamming along with everyone
else. This has become almost a
raga/Cajun piece, reminiscent of Kaleidoscope to my ear, then it returns back
to slow and slide-y before slowly fading.
Followed by “Helium Reprise, also by the Tin Hat Trio: This one begins with an almost Betty Boop
sliding violin sound, but quickly turns the plucked fiddly sounds and the
unmistakable voice of Tom Waits. There
are small blats of horns as well, that punctuate the piece. The concertina/accordion comes back in after
some percussive clinks and an almost African-sounding plucked, stringed
instrument. Horns come in and wander
about with everyone else, I can just see Tom sitting on a stool at the bar,
observing it all. May I interrupt this message and say that I thought the last one was difficult. This one is in it’s own stratosphere, as far as voting, with everyone’s entries! And continuing with George: Hanafugestu “Crimson” Very pretty music from a Japanese ensemble, playing traditional instruments, shakuhatchi and koto, as well as piano with a lilting-voiced singer….all in traditional garb as well. There is certainly a strong element of classical Japanese music, with the instrumentation….and combining the lovely voice of the female singer in a more modern style. Very light in feel, it would seem the subject is a happy one. Unfolk “Bedroom Discotheque” Song starts with low notes on guitar, supported by drums and bass. Male singer in very 80’s style. There are some nice cello or violin embellishments. The song uses imagery of turntable speeds, melting wax and lists various styles of popular music in the lyrics. Yes, he DOES sound like Peter Murphy a bit, now that I’m reading what you said. “Tuva Farewell,” from Genghis Blues soundtrack, with Paul Pena. I enjoy some of the tuva music that I’ve heard. I’m not a fan of modern “growling,” which this resembles, but it’s authentic here, for some reason it always sounds contrived when I hear it from metal/prog outfits. This combines a traditional American folk sound from the main singer, his guitar and maybe a slide guitar or dobro?, with the addition of a tuva singer. Really a fun piece, the tuva singer underneath the guitars and such sounds a bit like a jaw harp. Looked him up, what an interesting and tragic life. The Anders: Sorten Muld “Bonden og Elverpigen”
Keyboards and percussion begin the song, then a dulcet female voice
joins in. String sounds are added with a
whispered vocal underpinning the main vocal.
There is then some violin (or is it nyckelharpa?) and flute-type sounds,
along with another back vocal, kind of scatting along. The piece fades out similar to the way it
began. Pervolargia “Garden” Lovely Greek piece with violin, probably
bouzouki and an instrument that sounds like a kanun or santur. Female singer, apparently Stella Marnelaki,
from what I’m able to gather looking about online. Sounds Greek to me! I enjoyed this, I’ve always loved going to
Greek festivals here in the US and love Greek food, as well as the music,
although I don’t know as much about their traditional instruments as I do
Middle Eastern. Wonderful addition. Lewian: The Danish String Quartet “Sonderho Bridal
Trilogy Part II” I love string quartets.
This piece begins in an uplifting way and feel, with undertones of
sentimentalism. It quickly moves off
into a more spirited mode, repeating the main melody, but with more emphasis on
the upbeat feeling. It drops into a
thoughtful portion as the song slowly comes to a fade, with the final notes
being the melody played solo. |
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