Prog & Punk - Connection??

Certif1ed wrote: Anyone that thinks punk was just a load of noise should check out any of the Damned's later material

Didn't Nick Mason produce one of their later albums??

Certif1ed wrote: I'd totally disagree that the original punks lacked personality - that was one of the main points of punk after all - to be yourself no matter what anyone thought. Just think of Johnny (Rotten), Sid, Captain Sensible, Dave Vanian, Hugh Cornwell - all far more striking personalities than could be found in most other music genres of any generation.

No actually their on-stage striking personalities (if thats what you want to call it) didn't follow them off stage.. and they really lacked personality. Most were liked spoilt children, before they were even able to afford to.  They were very limited in their ideas..and they had no education to draw on.  Conversing with them was a total chore and their attention span was nil... so nope... personalities were sorely lacking!

Some statements are beyond criticism.

richardh wrote: greenback wrote: the only conection i know between prog rock and punk rock is .... PAUL COOK! Elaborate please.What punk band was Cook in before IQ?

The Sex Pistols.

NO, IT'S NOT THE SAME PAUL COOK!! He's just a namesake

By the way, I agree on those assertions about Vicious's lack of personality, creativity and intelligence. The guys in KILLING JOKE, THE CLASH, THE DAMNED & THE STRANGLERS, and John Foxx-era ULTRAVOX were more coherent and articulate in their ideas about art, society and humankind, and they were real creative as performers and songwriters. Some of them even didn't like the label punk, yet they incarnated the pinnacle of the punk movement both commercially and intellectually. They weren't even caught in the traps of punk cliches: their sonic spectrum was varied enough (including reggae, R'n'B, Roxy Music glam, krautrock, jazz pop) to shine as real interesting/trascendent British pop acts of the late 70s. 

Cesar Inca wrote:   NO, IT'S NOT THE SAME PAUL COOK!! He's just a namesake By the way, I agree on those assertions about Vicious's lack of personality, creativity and intelligence. The guys in KILLING JOKE, THE CLASH, THE DAMNED & THE STRANGLERS, and John Foxx-era ULTRAVOX were more coherent and articulate in their ideas about art, society and humankind, and they were real creative as performers and songwriters. Some of them even didn't like the label punk, yet they incarnated the pinnacle of the punk movement both commercially and intellectually. They weren't even caught in the traps of punk cliches: their sonic spectrum was varied enough (including reggae, R'n'B, Roxy Music glam, krautrock, jazz pop) to shine as real interesting/trascendent British pop acts of the late 70s.

 Some of what you're describing is more dark-rock aka goth in today's terms!

Bad joke (Circa 1977)

The Sex Pistols were sharing a bath, when they all started to feel viscious. So Sid got out and they all started to feel rotten.