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KoS
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 17 2005
Location: Los Angeles
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Points: 16310
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 03:41 |
Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be
denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of
sex.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate
legislation.
women's right to vote
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator
Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Online
Points: 20248
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 04:20 |
I think I could count up to 20 women posting in the PA , which is way too few, and most of them are discreet. Threefates , Friede and Jean are the most visible members of feminine persuasion and they provide a welcome more feminine touch. There should a lot more of them , not just because we need them to cool the manners of young men, but also because I should think that there are no solid reasons for not liking this kind of music , if they tried a bit to get an interest.
Most of us progheads grieve at the fact that prog has too few women liking it and going to concerts. Most of us grieve at the fact that our partner does not like our music although we would love to share this passion with them - ie: the famous sentence: "Prog? That's the crap my husband listens to!". Actually , I am not faring too badly and most of my friends (who have women that fits them - meaning that they are well assorted as a couple) have spouses and girlfriends that also listen to it, although it is clear they would've never got to that music without the help of their man. I am inclined to think that should most of these couples break up , the woman would still lend an ear to prog, thus meaning that they did not listen to it just to please their man.
However , (I maybe generalizing here) for women , music is not seen with the same viewpoint. They consider music in a more festive manner. Music is for dancing, rejoicing and ultimately attract a mate. Of course , they listen to music, but are more inclined to buy what they hear on the radio.
An anecdote:
I once got mad my best female friend by saying that I thought that for a woman , my partner's vinyl collection was not too bad (my partner has in her collection some Floyd , one Yes , a few Queen , some Supertramp , early ELO , The Carpenters etc... but also some of crap especially those cheap made for TV collections of hits from a given year etc...)!
My friend thought that this was a terribly sexist comment from me! I spend almost half an hour explaining why I thought that the comment was not sexist , maybe it was musical snobbery but not really sexism! She finally agreed to it , but I also explained that her extraordinary collection for a woman (she has over 3000 records , mostly rock , blues , prog , some fusion etc...) and that her musical tastes were one of the reason we were friends (and being an occasional lover another one) amongst the many other reasons!
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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floydaholic
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 30 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 240
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 12:47 |
Citanul wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Wanna hear a good joke? The 19th amendement. |
For those of us not from the US - what is the 19th amendment?
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Haha sorry, it is womens right to vote as the man after you so nicely put.
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I'll see you on the Darkside of the moon...
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Arsillus
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 26 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 7374
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 18:27 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Plenty, and there are many threads on the matter.
Oh, and we're not ALL lonely guys living in pizza-box mazes y'know.
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Yeah!
And I have a girlfriend...errr....I used to.....
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bek_
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 29 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 110
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 01:09 |
Well I'm new to this forum, I am a female and love prog. I came across
this site last year some time, but didn't feel the need to forum up,
but a few days ago I realised, what the hell!?
so here I am, and it is cool
I play an online game, I am the ONLY girl who actively plays it in this
country, lol.... so I am familiar with this situation of high testerone
levels, but it's quite sad to see that most of you think women buy
whatever is on the radio, I hate that generalisation especially if it
is applied to me. WATCH OUT!.. though I suppose it is a rarity to see
females interested in prog (I'm trying to get my friends into it) I'd
have to say DT got me into prog, amazing stuff! That lead on to Liquid
Tension Experiment... Fantomas.... (Im going to go see them in 2
weeks!!! Exciting!)
I love being different, I love not listening to the radio and other
mainstream dribble, music is so much apart of me I couldn't see my self
being with someone that doesn't like prog or metal for that matter. I'm
really for 'common interest' relations! havn't found anyone yet though..
As for one of you who mentioned feminate nicknames, mine is short for rebecca... close enough.
Anyway, why should we have to have a feminiate aura about our nickname? Isn't it better not to see:
"sexy_bunny39832479"
"high_maintenance_girl_$$"
"lovely_lucy"
"crazychickonacid"
"2Hot4U_BABE"
arggghhh at cliches!
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felona
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 12 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 521
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 18:00 |
Kryodus wrote:
That is very strange that no women are on this site, that really surprises me...
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yes there are and:
- I can read a map and therefore....
- I can gladly give directions to help any guy out of their pizza-box maze
- I love most Prog (except doom metal/very jazzy-fusionesque stuff)
Edited by felona
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I was never really sure what I was waiting for. When the moment came I was looking away ......
The Church "After Everything Now This"
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raychool
Forum Newbie
Joined: August 30 2005
Location: Australia
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Points: 3
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 05:55 |
i am a 21 year old girl from perth western australia and i am in love with
prog rock -most especiallly Yes!!!
i am yet to find anyone let alone a girl in this entire city that likes
prog?????
good to know there are at least a few girls in the whole world that do!
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bek_
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 29 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 110
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Posted: September 05 2005 at 05:32 |
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greenback
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: August 14 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 3300
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 01:31 |
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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bek_
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 29 2005
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 110
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 02:18 |
Trouble.. that was an ummmm interesting game...
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Ray Lomas
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 187
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 04:17 |
Sorry ladies, some men just seem to be real pigs.
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be male
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 28 2005
Location: Germany
Status: Offline
Points: 10387
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 06:30 |
"Männer sind Schweine,
frage nicht nach Sonnenschein!
Sie wollen alle nur das eine,
in jedem Mann steckt nun mal ein Schwein".
(translation:
"men are pigs,
don't ask for sunshine (a German expression meaning "and how!").
they all want just one thing,
in every man there is a pig".)
from a song by "Die Ärzte", a German fun-punk band
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: December 16 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 7003
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 06:44 |
Ray Lomas wrote:
Sorry ladies, some men just seem to be real pigs.
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be male
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Don't disparage your own gender, Ray - remember that for all our shortcomings, we make the lives of women better in many significant ways:
- Removing spiders from the bathroom
- Getting things down from high shelves
- Unscrewing the lids of jam jars and sauce bottles
Let's face it, where would civilisation be without contributions like that?
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Ray Lomas
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 187
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Posted: September 11 2005 at 07:03 |
Syzygy wrote:
Ray Lomas wrote:
Sorry ladies, some men just seem to be real pigs.
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be male
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Don't disparage your own gender, Ray - remember that for all our
shortcomings, we make the lives of women better in many significant
ways:
- Removing spiders from the bathroom
- Getting things down from high shelves
- Unscrewing the lids of jam jars and sauce bottles
Let's face it, where would civilisation be without contributions like that? |
In fact my girlfriend has to take care of the spiders, at least if they have long legs. But I get rid of the bees. Now that is co-work or what.
She is a bit taller than me, too. But at least she leaves the unscrewing for me.
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Fritha
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 10 2005
Location: Finland
Status: Offline
Points: 471
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 12:07 |
Ray Lomas wrote:
Sorry ladies, some men just seem to be real pigs.
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be male
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Awww, don't be! Men are wonderful for the most part. Some women just get too easily ticked off by rather harmless, disparaging comments on their gender that are in any case often made tongue-in-cheek. Women do the same in regards to men, after all, and that seems to be fine. More serious sexism -the kind that is sanctioned by the society at large- should not be encouraged, of course, but I have found very little signs of that on Progarchives.
I'm rather laid-back when it comes to gender-issues (as interesting and fascinating as I do find them) and the reason for this is that I don't really think of myself from a gender point of view, not consciously at least... Perhaps I ought to get more in touch with my feminine side?
Edited by Fritha
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I was made to love magic
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Suki
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 21 2005
Location: Israel
Status: Offline
Points: 134
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Posted: October 03 2005 at 10:09 |
In generally speaking, I do not think Prog is any exception.
For example, besides Prog, I hear other things (heavy stuff of Rock & Metal). Lately I've been interested in what lots of the girls whom I go to parties with currently listening to, so I spoke with lots of them and all of them said like the easy stuff.
So perhaps finding a girl who enjoys Prog is rarer than finding girls who like Heavy\Trash\Doom\Death\Death (genres like that) but I still do not think it should be considered as an exeption... There are some things of which we men only like and females won't and it's not prog only.
Besides, you're complaining about girls, but you do not know how hard it is for a high-school student (such as me) to find others who actually KNOW of the existence of the Prog genre.
I talk to lots of people of my age and they're mostly hearing stuff like System of a Down. What is actually funny is when a friend of mine gave me to hear some System's songs on his MP3 and he told his other friend to wants me to be exposed to some good music, when the first time I heard System was couple of years before the 'music understanding guys group' in my school has even heard about them, not to mention that their understanding about music is rather lacking.
soo.. I do not care much about it. even when I put on some metal my female friends do not think of it as much as I do..
Just let it go and let them hear those awfully bands.. bah.. Greenday :/
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