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Dellinger
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Posted: December 08 2015 at 21:52 |
Atavachron wrote:
Plant wasn't just a great rock vocalist, he is an expert of all things Blue in a way no other English rocker was. Sure Joe Cocker may've been more authentic, but Plant understood Blues history; he is an archivist in black American vocal musics, and uses that mastery in his songs. You don't get that from Daltrey or Gillan.
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Posted: December 08 2015 at 21:55 |
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Whenever we talk about greatest vocalists in classic rock,these three names are always going to be mentioned first. All equally brilliant with their own unique style. I prefer Gillan specially for 'Live In Japan' album. |
Freddie Mercury may have a say on that . | Just what I thought too. Though as a progger, I would love to include Jon Anderson, Peter Hamill, Francesco Di Giacommo, Annie Haslam... but of course, they won't be so easily known.
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Posted: December 08 2015 at 23:47 |
Dellinger wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
addictedtoprog wrote:
Whenever we talk about greatest vocalists in classic rock,these three names are always going to be mentioned first. All equally brilliant with their own unique style. I prefer Gillan specially for 'Live In Japan' album. |
Freddie Mercury may have a say on that . |
Just what I thought too. Though as a progger, I would love to include Jon Anderson, Peter Hamill, Francesco Di Giacommo, Annie Haslam... but of course, they won't be so easily known. |
I think Jon is pretty popular. And of course, Peter Gabriel too. Those are the only prog singers that are well known (since Pink Floyd never had a "singer"). Maybe Greg Lake could be added.
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Posted: December 09 2015 at 05:02 |
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(...) When Daltrey sings, "Get on my knees and pray/We don't get fooled again" he sounds like he means it.
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Exactly. Aside of the fact that he was played in many movies after Tommy, Roger Daltrey actually was like an actor who is starring (sings) those crazy characters from Townshend's phantasy.
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Posted: December 09 2015 at 05:48 |
A really tricky poll. Just too tough to call.
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Posted: December 09 2015 at 21:54 |
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Dellinger wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
addictedtoprog wrote:
Whenever we talk about greatest vocalists in classic rock,these three names are always going to be mentioned first. All equally brilliant with their own unique style. I prefer Gillan specially for 'Live In Japan' album. |
Freddie Mercury may have a say on that . |
Just what I thought too. Though as a progger, I would love to include Jon Anderson, Peter Hamill, Francesco Di Giacommo, Annie Haslam... but of course, they won't be so easily known. |
I think Jon is pretty popular. And of course, Peter Gabriel too. Those are the only prog singers that are well known (since Pink Floyd never had a "singer"). Maybe Greg Lake could be added. | Yeah, Greg Lake is wonderful too... even if I haven't really heard him top his own performance on Epitaph... of course, not many people have ever topped that performance.
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Posted: December 11 2015 at 11:59 |
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Posted: December 11 2015 at 12:12 |
Better voice Gillan Better singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
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Posted: December 11 2015 at 14:24 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice GillanBetter singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
| Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me. You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view. That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing. For that reason, it is Daltrey.
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Posted: December 11 2015 at 16:31 |
lazland wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice GillanBetter singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
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Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me.
You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view.
That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing.
For that reason, it is Daltrey. |
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Posted: December 12 2015 at 16:40 |
Gillans in the lead ??? Awesome !
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Posted: December 12 2015 at 21:17 |
lazland wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice Gillan
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Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me.
You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view.
That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing.
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Page live is one of the worst there is.
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 01:06 |
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Page live is one of the worst there is. |
Yeah if what you're interested in is perfection. But both Page and Plant knew better and understood the power of emotional content which you don't really get from polished players. You don't think it was an accident they sounded rough, do you? Robert Plant loved ragged guitar, that's why he wanted to work with Page; character, texture, feeling, and authenticity. No one rocked like Zeppelin, and they never will. In concert they blew away the Hendrix Experience, made Tull look average, and put Sabbath to shame.
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 01:16 |
tough choice in the end, it's Robert Plant. Not only was he amazing with Led Zep, but I love some of his solo stuff. Gillan was great in the 70s plus the three Ian Gillan band albums were great. Some of his solo stuff in the 80s was pretty average.
I rarely listen to the Who these days, I like them though. I should give them a chance one of these days, At least listen to Who's Next.
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 05:47 |
Based on the earlier works of the three I went with Plant. Considering the number of votes this is one of the closest polls I've seen.
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 06:05 |
Atavachron wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
Page live is one of the worst there is. |
Yeah if what you're interested in is perfection. But both Page and Plant knew better and understood the power of emotional content which you don't really get from polished players. You don't think it was an accident they sounded rough, do you? Robert Plant loved ragged guitar, that's why he wanted to work with Page; character, texture, feeling, and authenticity.
No one rocked like Zeppelin, and they never will. In concert they blew away the Hendrix Experience, made Tull look average, and put Sabbath to shame.
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Yeah, in fact just yesterday I pulled up the Knebworth concert mentioned by Steve. Not the whole thing but some songs and I thought it was fabulous. Very few rock singers (the male ones, that is) can actually sing with so much melody as Plant. So I'd assume the shoddiness was at least partly if not wholly deliberate. I don't know if any other rock band from the 70s could even dream of doing the things they were capable of on stage. I don't mean this in terms of a technical virtuosity Olympics but that they were so different from what other rock bands were doing in the 70s, so loose and so rich in flavour in a time when rock was gradually shedding those very qualities in preparation of the 80s!
If anything, that was the real problem with LZ. They were too good a live band to be able to fit their expression into a more concise and lucid shape for the studio. On recordings, their songs sound too rambling and drag but it works in the live setting.
On another note, yesterday was the first time I understood exactly how Plant must have influenced Jeff Buckley, who too went in for a loose, raw live act that could explode like a volcano at the right moments. Now if those bum notes give the impression that Jeff couldn't sing, then I must quote Peter Gabriel to say that "you've been taken for a ride"!
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Posted: December 13 2015 at 23:33 |
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Posted: December 14 2015 at 00:46 |
I love them all, but I'll have to go with Ian Gillan.
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Posted: December 14 2015 at 11:57 |
lazland wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice GillanBetter singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
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Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me.
You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view.
That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing.
For that reason, it is Daltrey. |
Yes, didn't mention Plant because my mama tells me not to say anything if I don't have something good to say.
Yes, Plant sings well, but he's extremely overacted, he tries to give an image of a sensual vocalist with that forced cadence that really turns me down (I only care about sensual women).
Daltrey has very little technique, he just throws the voice (pure throat), but has an energy that no other vocalist has, he sings with the heart.
I can't imagine any other vocalist singing I'm Free, Baba O'Riley, Won't Get Fooled again, or See Me, Feel Me.
Plus lets face it Roger Daltrey is Tommy and Tommy is Daltrey.
Gillan has one of the most beautiful voices I ever heard, but lacks a bit of soul.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 14 2015 at 11:59
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Posted: December 15 2015 at 07:44 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
lazland wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Better voice GillanBetter singer Daltrey
So my vote goes for Big D
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Similar to my thoughts, Ivan. The raw emotion and interpretation of Townsend's genius writing by Daltrey will win every time for me.
You have not, however, mentioned Plant. I find Led Zeppelin a very difficult band. At their best in the studio, utterly fantastic. However, live was a different matter altogether. I saw them at Knebworth before Bonham died, and was extremely disappointed, and I am afraid that the plethora of live material released since then has done nothing to change that view.
That, then, clinches it for me. Live music is always the test, and I have seen all three. Gillan, fantastic voice and passion. Daltrey, simply above any other live singer I have ever seen. Plant, very disappointing.
For that reason, it is Daltrey. |
Yes, didn't mention Plant because my mama tells me not to say anything if I don't have something good to say.
Yes, Plant sings well, but he's extremely overacted, he tries to give an image of a sensual vocalist with that forced cadence that really turns me down (I only care about sensual women).
Daltrey has very little technique, he just throws the voice (pure throat), but has an energy that no other vocalist has, he sings with the heart.
I can't imagine any other vocalist singing I'm Free, Baba O'Riley, Won't Get Fooled again, or See Me, Feel Me.
Plus lets face it Roger Daltrey is Tommy and Tommy is Daltrey.
Gillan has one of the most beautiful voices I ever heard, but lacks a bit of soul.
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I forgot the topic, don't care! Ivan my wonderful, <3 I am so happy to see you here again mhwoaaahhxxxxxx btw I second what Ivan said always!
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