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miamiscot 
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 Posted: July 30 2015 at 17:28 |
 SteveG wrote:
^Strangely, there's always a thread that runs through music and disparate artists. Miley was featured on the last Flaming Lips record. The Flaming lips are Floyd fanatics and did a not so hot cover of DSotM a few years before. If a Miley fan gets into some later psych pop Flaming Lips like Yoshimi, then he or she may go into a prog direction. This is the only business or marketing way I know of to bridge this kind of gap, but it is possible. |
...and Flaming Lips did a track by track remake of In The Court Of The Crimson King entitled Playing Hide And Seek With The Ghosts Of Dawn back in 2012. ...and they've covered "Heart Of The Sunrise." So yeah, anything's possible.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: July 31 2015 at 07:50 |
Raff wrote:
I have read much worse articles on prog, though the article is clearly not meant for seasoned listeners like us. Anyway, whoever wrote that should be commended for genuinely trying to introduce would-be listeners to prog, instead of patronizing the whole genre and its fandom as many others have done.
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Michael678 wrote:
i would've said to start with Yes and the 3-disc The Ultimate Yes and go from there like I did or Rush with the Gold compilation, and then go through each of the albums. that's what i usually do, though there's an exception (Radiohead). |
I started with Jethro Tull, and moved on from there to Genesis and Gentle Giant. If I'd started with Yes I would probably never have explored progressive rock any further, but to each his own.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: July 31 2015 at 08:32 |
I kinda agree with you Raff. I just find the whole thing rather ridiculous tbh. Like this pseudo-prog-bootcamp where you are trained in listening to a specific kind of music. I don't get that at all. Maybe if I compare it to eating chilis? One shouldn't start out with a ghost pepper but rather sprinkle a few drops of tabasco on a fruitpie. Wow now I get it  I just would've worded my article a little differently and spoken more of chilis, if I were to introduce prog to newbies......and almost certainly picked a different set of artists/albums.
Edited by Guldbamsen - July 31 2015 at 08:58
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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progmatic
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 08:31 |
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HOW TO ENJOY PROGRESSIVE ROCK:
1. Play prog music.
2. Listen.
3. Enjoy.
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PROGMATIC
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 10:09 |
How to enjoy progressive rock? Shut up and listen.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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SteveG
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 12:05 |
miamiscot wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^Strangely, there's always a thread that runs through music and disparate artists. Miley was featured on the last Flaming Lips record. The Flaming lips are Floyd fanatics and did a not so hot cover of DSotM a few years before. If a Miley fan gets into some later psych pop Flaming Lips like Yoshimi, then he or she may go into a prog direction. This is the only business or marketing way I know of to bridge this kind of gap, but it is possible. |
...and Flaming Lips did a track by track remake of In The Court Of The Crimson King entitled Playing Hide And Seek With The Ghosts Of Dawn back in 2012. ...and they've covered "Heart Of The Sunrise." So yeah, anything's possible. |
I didn't feel the need for any extra exposition by bringing up these additional subpar covers from the Lips and their offshoot group the Electric Worms, but thanks anyway.
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emigre80
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 12:31 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
How to enjoy progressive rock? Shut up and listen. |
Advice for everyone on this forum?
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 12:32 |
emigre80 wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
How to enjoy progressive rock? Shut up and listen. |
Advice for everyone on this forum? |
Sorry, can't talk right now. I'm listening to an album.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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emigre80
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 12:58 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
emigre80 wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
How to enjoy progressive rock? Shut up and listen. |
Advice for everyone on this forum? |
Sorry, can't talk right now. I'm listening to an album. |
well played, sir. 
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: August 01 2015 at 13:09 |
Looks like I've been doing it all wrong.
Time to start all over.
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"Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."
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Progosopher
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Posted: August 03 2015 at 18:18 |
Almost completely wrong, and the worst depiction of Page and Plant I have ever seen. Here is my advice, for what it may be worth: 1. Listen to what you like. Don't like it because someone else said you should, but don't dislike it for the same reason. 2. Be open to new stuff. 3. Feel free to accept or reject whatever comes your way. 4. It's all music. Sub-genres just give a guideline into what to expect. The lines blur everywhere. 5. What band to start with depends on the band's output as well as your own interests and tastes. Genesis may work, but 80s Genesis is different from 70s Genesis. Same for Yes, King Crimson, and countless others. 6. Explore a variety of bands and sub-genres.. Don't expect them all to sound the same. 7. Don't take notes, but listen. Most people respond to music emotionally rather than intellectually. Don't turn it into a school assignment (unless that's how you roll). 8. Once you get the taste, then you can start to think more consciously about it and explore the field even more. Don't turn your mind off completely; assume you will get the taste at some point. 9. Some knowledge of music will enhance appreciation but may have nothing to do with enjoyment. 10. Yes, watch videos, communicate with others; ask for recommendations and follow recommended links. Note to the recommenders: Don't expect others to like exactly what you like for the same reasons. An over zealous progger can easily turn a neophyte into a hater, and no one wants that. 11. Above all, enjoy what you are doing.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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moshkito
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 10:30 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
How to enjoy progressive rock? Shut up and listen. |
I'll admit that in 1972/3 and 4, there was some augmentation to the music. A good hit of acid and laying down on the couch and listening to CTTE, or Echoes, or TAAB or APP ... was an awesome experience. Nowadays ... yeah ... DE's suggestion is the best! And we don't mean just 5 minutes of it, which I think is the most important part, since nowadays, there are way too many "prog" folks that can only listen to radio cuts!
Edited by moshkito - August 04 2015 at 10:33
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
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dr wu23
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 12:01 |
How to enjoy prog rock is like asking how to enjoy sex.....if you have to ask then you probably just should forget it.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
Haquin
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RockHound
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 12:31 |
dr wu23 wrote:
How to enjoy prog rock is like asking how to enjoy sex.....if you have to ask then you probably just should forget it. |
I presume the Wiki-How for enjoying sex involves putting on a little mood music like Gentle Giant, because it's "easy to get into." It also has a good beat and is easy to dance to.
Just think of Mr. Smooth turning down the lights, pouring some fine brandy, and putting on "The Power and the Glory."
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 13:14 |
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Moogtron III
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Posted: August 04 2015 at 14:34 |
Formentera Lady wrote:
But seriously, I discovered prog with Three Sides Live and Abacab in the 80's, and worked my way backwards... .
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That's about the same for me, except that my older brothers played a lot of prog in my childhood days. But forgetting about it in my teenage years, I heard Abacab, liked it, got Duke and Live and And Then There Were Three, and then went from the Genesis back catalogue towards other prog bands like Yes, King Crimson and ELP. So a bit like the writer of the article suggested. I don't know, such a listening procedure, it might work for some. Most of us work are explorers by heart, I suppose, and one step leads to another.
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moshkito
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Posted: August 06 2015 at 09:35 |
dr wu23 wrote:
How to enjoy prog rock is like asking how to enjoy sex.....if you have to ask then you probably just should forget it. |
Or, you are too old?
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
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yaksongs
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Posted: August 10 2015 at 07:58 |
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I found the article worked best when I read it in the voice of Alan Partridge lol
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Evolver
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Posted: August 10 2015 at 09:17 |
I use a method paraphrased from a classic episode of "The Odd Couple" TV show: 1. Take a very small listen of the music. 2. Swish it around inside of your head. 3. Continue swishing until it sound like old furniture polish. 4. Spit it out into a glass. Anything less is uncivilized.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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symphonicman
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Posted: August 15 2015 at 07:11 |
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How to not enjoy Progressive Rock? Impossible!
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Master James of St. George.
Of the fields and the sky.
He used to build castles of stone, steel, and blood.
But lines get broken down.
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