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Points: 66565 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:18

This sounds like time to get a passport for some of you.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64824&PID=3538199#3538199
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:25
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

This sounds like time to get a passport for some of you.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64824&PID=3538199#3538199


Hmm, not for me though. Tongue  I've still never managed to become much of a fan of post-rock.
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Points: 66565 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:29
Me neither, but I know that there are GY!BE fans in this thread that that link would apply to.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Pink Floyd are a great band.  I don't listen to them all that much these years, since I played them way more in my youth, but still they are a great band.  They are a band where the lyrics really matter.  Animals being one of the cases with its references to George Orwell's 1984.  Obviously, musically, you have to remember that they are from a different time pre-Dream Theater and Meshuggah where it wasn't really necessary to play 100 notes per second.


Dream Theater does that. Meshuggah doesn't always, because they prefer to 1) not use melody 2) be atonal and 3) center everything around a 4/4 groove. Tongue But I get what you mean, Scott.

This is making me want to listen to Animals now. LOL

Not me. Tongue  Instead, once I finish up the last couple tracks of Tago Mago from last night, I'm going to listen to Trout Mask Replica.

Both of those are amazing albums. I don't think I could pick one over the other, although I might go with TMR if I was at gunpoint.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:32
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Pink Floyd are a great band.  I don't listen to them all that much these years, since I played them way more in my youth, but still they are a great band.  They are a band where the lyrics really matter.  Animals being one of the cases with its references to George Orwell's 1984.  Obviously, musically, you have to remember that they are from a different time pre-Dream Theater and Meshuggah where it wasn't really necessary to play 100 notes per second.


Dream Theater does that. Meshuggah doesn't always, because they prefer to 1) not use melody 2) be atonal and 3) center everything around a 4/4 groove. Tongue But I get what you mean, Scott.

This is making me want to listen to Animals now. LOL

Not me. Tongue  Instead, once I finish up the last couple tracks of Tago Mago from last night, I'm going to listen to Trout Mask Replica.

Both of those are amazing albums. I don't think I could pick one over the other, although I might go with TMR if I was at gunpoint.

I'd take Tago Mago without a second's thought.
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Points: 66565 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:33
I've not heard either.
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I'd take Animals over pretty much anything in a general situation.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:38
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I've not heard either.

Have you tried any Krautrock at all?  If not, Tago Mago's a good place to start. Wink  As for the esteemed Captain Beefheart, if you think avant-garde free blues rock would appeal to you...by all means, check him out! LOL
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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:42
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

This sounds like time to get a passport for some of you.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=64824&PID=3538199#3538199



That does sound interesting, thanks Scott.
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Points: 66565 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2010 at 13:45
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I've not heard either.

Have you tried any Krautrock at all?  If not, Tago Mago's a good place to start. Wink  As for the esteemed Captain Beefheart, if you think avant-garde free blues rock would appeal to you...by all means, check him out! LOL
Amon Duul II's Yeti is my all-time least favorite album.  I actually have Future Days, Out of Reach, and Can plus the two CD Can Anthology.  They never really did much for me until I listened to them again a couple of months ago.  There were a couple of songs that I found to be quite awful, but the rest was actually pretty good.  Sometimes for me, a couple of awful songs can ruin a whole album or band for me. 
I borrowed Captain Beefheart's TMR from the library, but I never really had the overwhelming desire to try it yet.  It did mysteriously find itself on my hard drive waiting to be heard to see if it is worth getting an actual copy or not.   It kind of "scares" me to be honest.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I've not heard either.

Have you tried any Krautrock at all?  If not, Tago Mago's a good place to start. Wink  As for the esteemed Captain Beefheart, if you think avant-garde free blues rock would appeal to you...by all means, check him out! LOL
Amon Duul II's Yeti is my all-time least favorite album.  I actually have Future Days, Out of Reach, and Can plus the two CD Can Anthology.  They never really did much for me until I listened to them again a couple of months ago.  There were a couple of songs that I found to be quite awful, but the rest was actually pretty good.  Sometimes for me, a couple of awful songs can ruin a whole album or band for me. 
I borrowed Captain Beefheart's TMR from the library, but I never really had the overwhelming desire to try it yet.  It did mysteriously find itself on my hard drive waiting to be heard to see if it is worth getting an actual copy or not.   It kind of "scares" me to be honest.

Tago Mago is pretty different from Yeti IMO, and if you enjoyed the majority of Future Days you'd probably like at least a majority of the songs on Tago Mago.  The only songs I feel like you might not be a fan of are Aumgn and Peking O.  I think you're in for a treat with Captain Beefheart, too, whether it be a good treat or a bad treat is up to you. Tongue
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It is sort of like Gong for me.  I've only heard Angel's Egg, but it really didn't do anything for me so I've not been really interested in pursuing them further.  I don't know if you saw the blog about Gong, but that really made them kind of interesting to me, but after reading the blog, I still didn't really care for Angel's Egg.  I'm sure that there is some good music there but until Angel's Egg clicks with me, I probably won't be exploring them too much further.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is sort of like Gong for me.  I've only heard Angel's Egg, but it really didn't do anything for me so I've not been really interested in pursuing them further.  I don't know if you saw the blog about Gong, but that really made them kind of interesting to me, but after reading the blog, I still didn't really care for Angel's Egg.  I'm sure that there is some good music there but until Angel's Egg clicks with me, I probably won't be exploring them too much further.


Yeah, I've had a few bands like that.  Iron Maiden is the band which comes most readily to mind, I checked out the ones which seemed like they'd appeal to me most (7th Son and Brave New World) and while they're not bad I definitely don't have much desire to get anything more by them so far.
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is sort of like Gong for me.  I've only heard Angel's Egg, but it really didn't do anything for me so I've not been really interested in pursuing them further.  I don't know if you saw the blog about Gong, but that really made them kind of interesting to me, but after reading the blog, I still didn't really care for Angel's Egg.  I'm sure that there is some good music there but until Angel's Egg clicks with me, I probably won't be exploring them too much further.


Yeah, I've had a few bands like that.  Iron Maiden is the band which comes most readily to mind, I checked out the ones which seemed like they'd appeal to me most (7th Son and Brave New World) and while they're not bad I definitely don't have much desire to get anything more by them so far.
Those are probably their two best from a prog fan perspective.  Those and Powerslave are probably my favorite.  I love their story telling ability.  Powerslave is awesome for that.  Their version of Rime of the Ancient Mariner is pretty awesome.  A song that I really like from them is Murders in the Rue Morgue from their Killers album, which is based on the Edgar Allen Poe story.  http://www.youtube.com/watchv=Holvzlk4LrQ
 
And if it is the vocals that you don't like, you might like Transylvania http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfEJU4KUEkk from their debut album which is a pretty cool instrumental. 
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I LOL'd

Then I saw the dog. Man, she won't be able to carry it soon enough.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is sort of like Gong for me.  I've only heard Angel's Egg, but it really didn't do anything for me so I've not been really interested in pursuing them further.  I don't know if you saw the blog about Gong, but that really made them kind of interesting to me, but after reading the blog, I still didn't really care for Angel's Egg.  I'm sure that there is some good music there but until Angel's Egg clicks with me, I probably won't be exploring them too much further.


Yeah, I've had a few bands like that.  Iron Maiden is the band which comes most readily to mind, I checked out the ones which seemed like they'd appeal to me most (7th Son and Brave New World) and while they're not bad I definitely don't have much desire to get anything more by them so far.
Those are probably their two best from a prog fan perspective.  Those and Powerslave are probably my favorite.  I love their story telling ability.  Powerslave is awesome for that.  Their version of Rime of the Ancient Mariner is pretty awesome.  A song that I really like from them is Murders in the Rue Morgue from their Killers album, which is based on the Edgar Allen Poe story.  http://www.youtube.com/watchv=Holvzlk4LrQ
 
And if it is the vocals that you don't like, you might like Transylvania http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfEJU4KUEkk from their debut album which is a pretty cool instrumental. 

It was kind of everything.  I didn't have a problem with any part of the band, but they also didn't manage to grab me at all.

So should I order the ZAAR CD?
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Ooh, I can find out for myself! http://www.last.fm/music/Zaar/ZAAR
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Well... I'm checking again Animals and still is good... I don't have problem with not so intense bands (aka pre-Dream Theater) but sometimes I need a shaker to help me not to fall asleep... and this album is quite good... it has the vibe... really...!!
Change the program inside... Stay in silence is a crime.
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I'm checking out ZAAR, and based on the first track alone I'm pretty positive I'm going to order this.
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