The American Politics Thread

are they wrong to?  

One could argue that.. and I have a long Mick-post chambered but for once with the safety on.. 

that is the only goddamned thing those far right morons are correct about.

I have heard this said before, but most center-right working class folks I've had the experience of talking to over the last couple decades of my life don't talk like Trump does. Those that do seem to be in the minority and are usually known as braggarts. Like the rest of us, they know what they are and they tend to try to avoid getting trapped into conversations with braggarts. I don't know how these folks don't see this attribute in Trump. 

If they do see this and are willing to dismiss it, then there is something more going on here. Partly it can be blamed on right-wing media (Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Fox News, etc.) which oversimplifies almost everything into black and white, when most things are many shades of gray. The other part I think is that the Democrats haven't really tried hard enough to reach out to rural populations. And then there is the abortion thing. 

I remembered the pollster.  Rich Thau.  I think he meant more the issues and views Trump brought to the table on immigration, trade, manufacturing exodus than the tone itself.  

Thau has been doing a swing voter project where it would appear huge majorities of his (small) samples are voting against Trump in Pennsylvania but less so in Michigan and the samples are overwhelmingly in favour of Biden in Wisconsin.  Note that these are all people who voted for Trump (I think) in 2016, so even if Biden is splicing off a small minority of them to his side, it could be enough to tip the scales in all three states.

I think Biden has so far reflected better political instincts than Clinton in 2016 and makes up through his folksiness and empathy what he lacks in aggression. Whether it will be enough will only become clear after the election, but he has done well to skirt the usually thinly veiled and sometimes open contempt the rich suburbanite Dems seem to have for working class voters. Case in point:  Stephanie Ruhle getting all upset on air that Biden told working class voters that this election is Scranton v/s Park Avenue.  Well, what else did you think he would tell them, he's going about it smartly, get out of his way.

OK, thanks for clarifying. I agree with everything you have said here.

^ Well they did.

^ Agreed, though when you look at the Supreme's photos they all look pretty healthy & youthful (considering).   I think the best we can hope for is a heart attack or cancer which I wouldn't wish on anyone, politics or not.