SR26: It's got a love supreme

MovingPictures07 wrote: UndercoverBoy wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: rushfan4 wrote: What is the deal with this marathon?  Did you rank the albums or did it come from somewhere else? I ranked them. It took a lot of time and effort (listening to all sorts of albums, thinking about it in the back of my head over a period of months, etc.), but I finally came up with a list I was really happy with. This is the list: http://rateyourmusic.com/list/MovingPictures07/150_essential_albums__music_everyone_should_hear/ Nice list.  I'm going to assume there's no Henry Cow on it because not everyone would enjoy it, right? Thanks! Actually, Henry Cow is on there, but they're at #91. I tried to rank them in order of absolute importance, influence, historical significance, uniqueness, and with inevitably a bit of subjectivity leaking in.

See I can't really do that. There's already tomes of music history poured into what's most important and what caused movements and tidal shifts in music. No point in going there, especially with less knowledge than previous writers. If I do it, I'd approximately weigh it 50% subjectivity, 25% historical significance, 25% you-need-to-hear-this factor, as in trying to give something fresh and resounding to somebody.

This is why we each need to compose our own 150 list, there's no way we'd all agree on something like that!

stonebeard wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: UndercoverBoy wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: rushfan4 wrote: What is the deal with this marathon?  Did you rank the albums or did it come from somewhere else? I ranked them. It took a lot of time and effort (listening to all sorts of albums, thinking about it in the back of my head over a period of months, etc.), but I finally came up with a list I was really happy with. This is the list: http://rateyourmusic.com/list/MovingPictures07/150_essential_albums__music_everyone_should_hear/ Nice list.  I'm going to assume there's no Henry Cow on it because not everyone would enjoy it, right? Thanks! Actually, Henry Cow is on there, but they're at #91. I tried to rank them in order of absolute importance, influence, historical significance, uniqueness, and with inevitably a bit of subjectivity leaking in. See I can't really do that. There's already tomes of music history poured into what's most important and what caused movements and tidal shifts in music. No point in going there, especially with less knowledge than previous writers. If I do it, I'd approximately weigh it 50% subjectivity, 25% historical significance, 25% you-need-to-hear-this factor, as in trying to give something fresh and resounding to somebody.

I wouldn't say our approaches are too different, honestly, as I'm not sure what percentages I would assign to such factors. Of course, yours does put more emphasis on subjectivity, but I can't make a list like that. It would depend way too much on my mood for ranking, rather than the more objective factors for ranking.

Besides, most people who have written on musical history are full of sh*t.

Most of Pink Floyd is boring to me

KoS wrote: Most of Pink Floyd is boring to me

Yeah have to be in the mood.
Used to love them just because...well Pink Floyd.

Now occasional listening. Good stuff but a lot of it is dull

JJLehto wrote: KoS wrote: Most of Pink Floyd is boring to me Yeah have to be in the mood. Used to love them just because...well Pink Floyd. Now occasional listening. Good stuff but a lot of it is dull

That's my point. Many people just hear PF because it's PF. But when you ask them, its always like... "PF is good, but not that great". I think over expossure is bad, and they are the best example...

jampa17 wrote: JJLehto wrote: KoS wrote: Most of Pink Floyd is boring to me Yeah have to be in the mood. Used to love them just because...well Pink Floyd. Now occasional listening. Good stuff but a lot of it is dull That's my point. Many people just hear PF because it's PF. But when you ask them, its always like... "PF is good, but not that great". I think over expossure is bad, and they are the best example...   And I don't hate them, but many of their music is, yes, dull...

Fail :(

jampa17 wrote: A Person wrote: jampa17 wrote: JJLehto wrote: KoS wrote: Most of Pink Floyd is boring to me Yeah have to be in the mood. Used to love them just because...well Pink Floyd. Now occasional listening. Good stuff but a lot of it is dull That's my point. Many people just hear PF because it's PF. But when you ask them, its always like... "PF is good, but not that great". I think over expossure is bad, and they are the best example...   And I don't hate them, but many of their music is, yes, dull...   Fail :( I will keep saying that Animals is their best album... by miles...

Don't get me wrong, Animals is a great album, but basically they just put George Orwell's Animal Farm to music. 

It's these sort of comments that my previous post was alluding to. Scott doesn't quite like a lot of certain kinds of music, same with Brian or Juan, same with Drew, same with everyone. It's natural. Not everyone will like every music they ever hear. I STILL don't really like the Beach Boys or the Rolling Stones (even after hearing their most acclaimed albums), and it's okay. It's not a matter of forcing yourself to like anything. It's a matter of trying to learn and understand how to appreciate different forms of expression.

I used to agree ENTIRELY that Dark Side and all of Pink Floyd was boring. If you look back to earlier posts I've made on this forum, you would see that. But I've since come to appreciate all sorts of expression and I would never dream of calling them that now, even though they're still far from being one of my favorite bands. I believe this essential album project really was the last step towards helping me accomplish that, and I've had no trouble listening to all of these albums back to back.

It's really fascinating, to be able to hear all sorts of different slices of history and people represented through mere sound waves.

But it's not my loss if other people don't enjoy the same things I do, or vice versa. I think people get way too caught up in all of that. I understand that Scott doesn't like Henry Cow, or that Juan thinks Pink Floyd is boring. It doesn't matter. All that I have tried to accomplish with the list is to allow people to have the same opportunity that I have had: to uncover these priceless experiences and perhaps form some great memories. This is also what PA is all about, and I think it's sometimes easy to forget. It was my time away from here that made me realize this.

JJLehto wrote: Exactly. But we're all passionate about music so...many people here tend to get a little to into it and sh*tstorms ensue which are pretty hilarious considering how subjective and pointless they are. At least its better then liking pop devils Or god forbid post 1989 music!

Exactly.