The American Politics Thread

what I think you fail to recognize is that is exactly what ...umm.. about 60% of America wants right now..

not Biden specifically... but a return to normal.... 

what is interesting however may not be a return to the old normal.. ie a President acting like one and leading this country.. but a real shift from the imperial Presidency, in which Trump has exposed all the evils of that, a not just a rebalancing of power but perhaps a real shift to where Congress .. not the President... leads the country through crafting its priorities and its policies.

to be blunt.. it won't be as much we will be electing Biden to be President. .but electing the hands down smartest and most savy poltician and policy maker in DC to be in charge..  Nancy Pelosi. The right has tried to make her some sort of boogyman.. didn't work in 2018.. isn't and won't work in 2020.  It could well be what I semi joked about earlier..  

Sleepy Joe .. just wake him up long enough to sign the bills that the Democratic controlled House and Senate pass

2020 is much different..  first Biden's lead is far far beyond any polling error.. and more importantly..  that generic lean.. is not dead even.. it is +12 Dem.  No one is kidding themselves that people are excited and motivated to vote FOR Biden.. but what they are motivated to vote against Trump. So in teh grand scehem of things.. it makes no difference.. in fact.. it probably gives Trump less chance because any slip ups by Biden.. simply won't matter for that is not why people are motivated to get out and vote. The enthusiasm is not for Biden.. but to see Trump out. and once the pile of sh*t has been removed from the carpet.. we can worry about replacing the carpet.

as has been noted.. should be understood by most.. there is going to one hell of a mess to clean up after Trump.. and the Virus.  It will be Congress.. not Biden.. that leads the recovery.

The thing that short-sighted people do not understand: it's not just Joe Biden, it's his appointments. It's taking the EPA away from the coal and fossil fuel lobbyists who are currently running the agency into the ground, and returning the clean air and water regulations back to what every other president since Nixon (and yes, Nixon actually founded the EPA) has protected. It's eliminating Betsy DeVos from the Department of Education and her own self-interest in collecting on student loan debt and her allowing fraudulent colleges (like the former Trump University) to skate from the penalty of law. It's about disbarring William Barr and removing him as war-time consigliere for Don Trumpeleone, and bringing back "Justice" rather than "Just Us" to the legal system. It's about returning all the scientists, doctors and qualified researchers to posts across the federal government who left because of Trump's anti-intellectual, anti-science crusade of imbecility. It's about returning independent Inspector Generals who were fired because Trump's criminality could not take the scrutiny. It's about eliminating all the unqualified idiots and dupes from embassies and intelligence departments who were put there by Trump not because of their qualifications, but because they were Trump donors and sycophants, because both the State department and intelligence agencies have begun to crumble under Trump.

We have an alleged president who so badly bungled a pandemic that the European Union has opened up travel to nearly every other country...except the U.S. How embarrassing is that for a country that was once the world leader in medical research? Trump has damaged our alliances across the world, and world leaders are laughing at the inept clown, and by extension, we as Americans. And now it certainly looks like Trump knew about Putin paying bounties to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan, and it is evident he is lying about it. Trump cares more for Confederate statues than he does the lives of our troops. He cares more about his re-election than he does offering a united strategy to stop a pandemic that has killed 130,000 people and is continuing to escalate out of control. 

You vote for this sociopathic c*cksucker, you are an accomplice to murder.

El Paso man...
 

anyone but Trump...

any President can look good when everything is going well...  the true meddle of one is tested.. the real importance of chosing wisely for President is what they are capable of when things are not going well.

America got what it deserved here.. mainly for it was no surprise in coming..

Bush Light..  no one blames those who voted for him for his catastrphoic mistakes..  he seemed like a good guy... no real clue he was over his head until he was already in office.

but Trump...  that is the difference.. and why families and friendships get broken over him. Who you are is reflected in who you support.  It isn't just ideological differences.. the man wasn't shown to be an un-qualified psychopath after he was elected...  it was very clear he was prior to the election. And still they voted for him... that says more about those that supported Trump.. than Trump himself who to his credit.. has remained what he has always been. A snake oil salesman who care nothing about us, his country..or how many dead is his responsible for.. it is all about him.

so do you think that any attempt to spin 150 thousand dead will work... or teargassing peaceful protesters will go over....remember.. he had lost the women and suburban votes he needed to win... 2 years ago.  Economic had nothing to do with 2018..if one had to point a finger to one thing..  healthcare and complete Republican disconnect from reality on the subject and a good economy (nor a Convid recovery) wasn't likely to save him for most recognized it wasn't even his doing anyway.

what a miraculous November recovery could do.. is not save Trump.. but perhaps cut that +12 gap enough to save the Senate or at least put it back to the 50-50 proposition it was prior to the Virus AND Floyd.

and thus the reason Trump is toast.. no one thinks he can not win.. in fact so many think he will pull a straight flush from his ass again in 2020 like he did in 2016. Thus the paradox of why he won't win. No apathy in not voting  thinking he is a joke and can't win... no trust in polling saying he is not going to win

thus coming back to what is not common sense.. but proven political fact.. if Democrats turn out to vote. Trump loses..  he is simply outnumbered.. ie his base is not enough to win.

and yes..  proven by 2018 which was a dress rehearsal for a 2020 referendum on Trump.  Highest turnout in 100 years... both parties turned out in record numbers.. and as it has been called. The lesson of 2018 that applied to 2020 even before the Virus.. or Floyd's death.

the Republican base alone is not enough to win. not only has he not made any attempt to appeal to moderates.. it has in fact driven them away. That is not applying common sense...  polling.. even our direct observations..

it was 'proven' in 2018 with hard votes.. and well before the virus and Floyd.. which merely made his loss.. a likely landslide loss