Russia/Ukraine tensions - Any concern?

Woon Deadn wrote: Lewian wrote: jamesbaldwin wrote: This is my opinion: (...) The problem that I have reading this is it looks as if Russian security concerns are legitimate whereas Ukrainian, Polish, Latvian, Finnish etc. security concerns don't count. Unfortunately, the big guys rule the world. We have already mentioned here the Monroe doctrine... The USA thinks and acts in the same way. Fortunately for the USA, they are surrounded by oceans, Canada and Mexico only...  Unfortunately, this is a man's world and the man has to be very strong and very big. Otherwise he is destined to be bullied.  I hope you understand it yourself.

Which city in Ukraine are you in now?
My girlfriend has cousins who have left Kyiv, we have heard they are still alive but are not sure exactly where they are. We also have cousins in Lviv and Zytomierz. Add to that, her mother in Bialystok, Poland near the border of Belarus.

Edited by Easy Money - March 03 2022 at 07:14

If the biggest bully is the one that rules, then I think the US and NATO combined would have that capability. I would not wish that on the Russian people, but if one was to adhere to such a simple and cynical outlook, that would be the ultimate outcome.
PS: This is not directed at Lewian.

Edited by Easy Money - March 03 2022 at 06:40

SteveG wrote: At this point, I'd rather see Ukraine give up and Zelensky taken to the US for asylum before Putin levels the entire country and thousands more die. No one is going to stop Russia.

Woon Deadn wrote: That's great that those countries found their happiness in NATO - but imagine they would like to go out one day and ally with China for some reason.

Lewian wrote: My personal guess is that say Poland could just leave NATO if they wanted, but this is discussing a fantasy world anyway.

Edited by Mascodagama - March 03 2022 at 07:35

More ex-pat Russians are stepping up to the plate to end the war. God bless the Russian people, this war is not their fault:

"Russian businessman Alex Konanykhin has put a $1 million bounty on Vladimir Putin's head.

He has called on Russian military officers to go after Putin and arrest him as a war criminal.

Konanykhin said he was putting up the bounty to "facilitate the denazification of Russia."

"I promise to pay $1,000,000 to the officer(s) who, complying with their constitutional duty, arrest(s) Putin as a war criminal under Russian and international laws," said crypto investor and California-based businessman Alex Konanykhin in a Facebook post on Wednesday.

Konanykhin claimed that Putin had violated the Russian constitution by "eliminating free elections" and "murdering his opponents."

"As an ethnic Russian and a Russia citizen, I see it as my moral duty to facilitate the denazification of Russia. I will continue my assistance to Ukraine in its heroic efforts to withstand the onslaught of Putin's Orda," Konanykhin said, using the Russian word for "horde."

Konanykhin told Insider that he had put up the bounty — which will come from his own funds — to show that the military assault on Ukraine is not being conducted in his name.

"If enough other people make similar statements, it may increase the chances of Putin getting arrested and brought to justice," he added."

Edited by Easy Money - March 03 2022 at 09:53

hah..  "facilitate the denazification of Russia."

^Must be tough. As a life long American I do not always agree with U.S. policies either. 

exactly Tim... what is right is right.. wrong is wrong.  the f**king flag and nationalistic jingoism be damned 

Edited by micky - March 03 2022 at 10:52

This behavior on Putin's part is exactly what the world does not need. With a pandemic and climate change these are the problems we need to work together to solve.