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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:14
Petra Kelly
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:25
You got her, James. Clap

An explanation of a few hints: "Petra" is the female version of "Peter", who of course was the rock on which the church was built; on Kelly the Green Party was built. The character from the novella is Michael Kohlhaas, an historical figure who rebelled when two of his horses were confiscated; his name is proverbial in German for people who rebel because of a righteous cause. Heinrich von Kleist wrote a drama about him. Kleist and his wife committed suicide by shooting together, a situation quite similar to the deaths of Petra Kelly and Gert Bastian, Kelly's life partner, though the exact circumstances of her death are not clear; it may as well be that Bastian murdered her and committed suicide afterwards.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:28
I did have one ready but I've forgotten who it was, so I need to find them again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:41
You forgot one important thing, Friede: The Greek word πέτρα (petra) means "stone". So it’s actually a pun in the Bible.
He say nothing is quite what it seems;
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 12:47
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

You forgot one important thing, Friede: The Greek word πέτρα (petra) means "stone". So it’s actually a pun in the Bible.

I did not mention it, but I did not forget it. Hence words like "petrified", "turned into stone", or "petroleum", "stone oil". My first hint directly referred to the meaning of her name.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 17:06
Male, fictional, deceased
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 17:13
How can a fictional being be deceased? The book is out of print?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2012 at 17:19
They died in the fiction.

Much like Gregor Samsa dies in Metamorphosis.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 06:08
I would not call fictional characters "deceased" if they die in the book or movie ro whatever. Read the book again, and they come back to life.

Is the character from a book?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 06:30
Sometimes.  Mostly not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 06:50
From one or more movies?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 07:06
I don't know of any films or movies featuring him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 09:17
Hmm … what kind of media can it be … comics?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 09:51
Not media, as such.  It's difficult to explain without giving a huge clue away.

Not comics.

I shall say this though: since the Internet has become what it has, this "person" has become a bit more well known.

Having said that, I hadn't heard of him before.  Hopefully that won't make it too difficult.

I shall also add another clue: this fictional person was first mentioned in a 1951 short-story published in Collier's written by a Science Fiction author.

So yes, you could say he was in a story but he's far more known in other media, such as the Internet.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 11:00
The 1961-date irritates me a bit, else I would have guessed Kilgore Trout.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 11:07
And I thought about George Kilroy but he doesn’t fit either. Isaac Asimov?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 11:11
Asimov is not fictional though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 11:25
I think James will understand that I asked about the author and not the character. I will rephrase it, though: Was the story written by Isaac Asimov?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 19:06
Not Asimov as the author, no.  The story he is first mentioned in (the one also mentioned above and published in Collier's) was also published in a Science Fiction Anthology from 1952 "Edited" (with an Introduction) by a very famous Science Fiction author.

It's not Kilgore Trout either.

You're on the right lines with George Kilroy (presumably you meant "Kilroy was here" Kilroy?).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 11:03
i think I’ve found him: Rudolph Fentz?

EDIT: Yes, that was the Kilroy I meant, but he didn’t fit for several reasons.


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