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LinusW
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 16:32 |
is all that's necessary after that.
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 16:37 |
Ugh (need pic of Charlie Brown here). I am still waiting for the new RRR vinyl to arrive. I ordered it from btf Feb 7th, they sent me a "shipment confirmation" the 11th, and here it is the 23rd. I'm sure others of you have ordered from them before. Is this usual? Probably more the international shipping than btf. Anyway it stinks to wait so long (but I'll live) especially since I also ordered Battiato's Sulle Corde (I know a few tracks but not the whole album, excited to hear it) and the interesting-looking Tower Yestermorrow record.
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LinusW
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 16:48 |
An album that just keeps on growing. Have you heard Clic? That one's possibly even better than Sulle Corde, at least according to me . |
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 17:05 |
^ I heard Clic once or twice from a friend, once in a good enough setting that I appreciated it. Very free record, on a looooong list of things i need.
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LinusW
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 17:12 |
Yeah, that's usually what happens, isn't it? Well, Sulle Corde di Aries is one hell of an album anyway, so that one won't disappoint you at all. |
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 17:35 |
^ ... when I get it
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Raff
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 17:44 |
And, of course, you should read my review of it!
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 18:15 |
^ But of course!
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 18:18 |
Will be very interested to hear your thoughts on Tower, AK, a very strange little album
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 18:22 |
The Vault:
Nei Gorghy del Tempo Consorzio Acqua Potabile Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
ZowieZiggy
At times, there are modern bands that play seventies music. They are often called as regressive. What
about an old band playing seventies music.in the nineties? Well, I guess that it is a good definition of
CAP (let's call them this way for the purposes of my reviews from this Italian band).
If you have ever dreamed of the delicacy of Italian prog music which goes along here with refined vocals, bombastic ELP-ish moments and some beautiful melodies; let me tell you that you don't need to search further on. You have reached the Holy Graal. The good thing with this album, is that all these elements are nicely combined to ensure that one doesn't get an indigestion of bombastic and regressive passages and too many long and quiet parts. I couldn't find a better example than ''Vivendo Un Giorno.'' to highlight this comment. It is a perfect digest of their work. Each of the tracks has lots of things to offer. The opener (''Il Mercante'') starts awkwardly, but after this weird intro, the most beautiful sound is going to reach your prog ears. Melody and emotion. Some Spanish flavours (acoustic guitar and even trumpets), before the entry of the incredible vocals which are so passionate! Some scary mood with ''In Un Vecchio Castello'': oppressive and dark at start, it turns into some sweet and light theme. A pastoral voyage in the world of the early ''Genesis'' for a while: do you get on board? It is true to say that the second part of the song has a more neo side; but this doesn't prevent the song to be an excellent moment. Those three songs were already featured on a live album recorded in '77 but only released in .'93. The most poignant track IMO, is the wonderful ''Arnaldo Da Chatillon Crociato''. So much beauty should be forbidden! I have made this comment often so far, but here it is again: such passion and emotion are only to be found in this marvellous musical genre. Another highlight (but there are almost nothing else than highlights here). The least interesting IMO, is the short (to their standards) ''Traccia.''. It is an old ''Banco'' cover. This is an excellent album that would deserve some more exposure here. Four stars. |
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 23 2010 at 18:24 |
I know, I know, I have reviews to write. Especially Architrave. Hard to imagine what to say after a full-on, stellar review by a certain somebody , but I'll think of something. Just went through a few hours making a decent listening version for my iPod. (Those guys would want to skewer me! Digital compression!) I swear I spent about six listens by now in the "proper manner", but now I just want to get to know it more intimately, and time in front of the record player is not as, shall we say available as time with the iPod. |
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LinusW
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Posted: February 24 2010 at 13:08 |
Rob visits early RPI-land
Ad Gloriam
Le Orme Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by Epignosis Italian psychedelic music is to be found here, and for me, this is a good find. Le Orme's debut is not rambunctious or pretentious- it consists of feathery rock songs with bright melodies in major keys. Nothing fancy, but this is a solid first effort and there are quite a few imaginative moments. This is highly recommended to fans of the earliest works of rock bands, such as early Yes or Pink Floyd. "Introduzione" Right from the start, the listener is treated to a funky psychedelic piece, with warbling guitar all over a call-and-response bass and organ. Quite possibly this could have been the introduction for a TV sitcom at that time. "Ad Gloriam" Following a brief vocal bit, pleasantly light rock music ensues. A repeated melody hangs out in the background, as though in its own world. This is a great song, and I was pleasantly surprised the first time I heard it. "Oggi Verrą" Light cymbals and percussion with a thudding bass and whimsical flute accompany fragile yet pleasant vocals. "Milano 1968" Bright organ and trebly bass engage in a psychedelic dance before spoken word and light singing take over. "I Miei Sogni" Slide guitar fed through dozens of effects introduces heavy tom work before further light rock of the 1960s comes through. "Mita Mita" Le Orme demonstrates great use of exotic instrumentation in this light and buoyant song. "Fumo" Juxtaposing quieter vocal passages with heavy organ-driven sections, this piece has some bizarre belching effects in places, and all of the instruments seem to be doing their own thing, yet it all comes together nicely. "Senti L'Estate Che Torna" This is quite an enjoyable song that is typical of oldies music both in composition and in sound. "Fiori Di Giglio" Following a somewhat exotic introduction, more pastoral textures ride in, over which is spoken word from what sounds like a very young girl. "Non So Restare Solo" Plinking quarter notes with a whistling organ underneath work with the relatively dynamic rhythm section to support the straightforward vocals. With the backup singing on the chorus, the music really does sound like a pop song from the golden oldies period of music. The instrumental segment involves gritty guitar and soon after, a drum solo. "Conclusione" This final ditty involves the strumming of an acoustic guitar, honky-tonk piano, and some lazy vocals, like a country tune drunkenly sang at a saloon. |
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: February 24 2010 at 14:53 |
Been looking for Genfuoco's Dentro L'Invisibile for quite some time. Any prospects of a Mellow re-issue? Fingers crossed.
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Nightfly
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 04:59 |
I'm loving this album at the moment....
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 05:07 |
Paul, that one is loved by many!
Chris, I've heard nothing, and have been watching for that too. Rob! Nice one! |
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 26 2010 at 22:18 |
Vault Pick of the day. A debatable album among our reviewers, I'm with David, I enjoy it.
Corte Dei Miracoli Corte Dei Miracoli Rock Progressivo Italiano Review by
Atavachron
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 08:18 |
Hey RPI fans, It finally arrived yesterday!
Between work and all the snow around here I still haven't had a chance to spin it. I will listen to it today, and even after that I wouldn't hastily review it. Anyway, I thought I'd record a few impressions from just holding it. I ordered the signed limited color-vinyl copy from the btf site. I ended up with 30 of 33. What is signed is an original photo of the band at a 1972 festival, marker-colorized by the hand of Luciano Regoli. The La Nuova Raccomandata con Ricevuta di Ritorno album "Il Pittore Volante" is beautiful to behold. There is a photo album-like appearance to the cover, very nicely old fashioned. The old fashioned look continues inside. A large black field with a muted yellow serifed type and some borderlines in a drab olive impart a very classy look. Details on the album, and the lyrics, fall in eight columns. At the top of each of these columns is a painting; first is the cover image, then seven others, some or perhaps all of which are actually details of larger images. All are described as oil on canvas and dimensions given. I wasn't expecting this. Searching the album details column (my Italian is not very good, really just derived from literature references and music notation) I learned, to my pleasant surprise, that all these paintings are by none other than Regoli. Here's what it says: Tutti i dipinti sono del pittore Luciano Regoli. Le liriche sono tratte dal libro 'Il Pittore Volante' di Luciano Regoli. Far as I could tell (someone please step in and correct me!), the cover painting and all the "lyric ones" - in other words all the paintings - are by Regoli, from his book 'Il Pittore Volante'. I shot out on the internet and learned that indeed the man is a painter. I must say I didn't even know about this, perhaps others of you did, but I am really taken with his immense talent as a painter in the classic sense. Bravo! You can check these links for examples of his art: http://www.lucianoregoli.it/en/dipinti.htm http://www.arcadja.com/auctions/en/regoli___luciano/artist/335010/ His eponymous website doesn't even mention his "past" as a singer I don't think. Back to the record. The list of participants is mightily impressive. I'm going to list it out here. Oh, and I "raccomando" - ha ha - that someone with the pull to do it should correct the PA page for the album, because it has errors. Beneath each song is a detailed list of who played what. All words and music are by Regoli. The lineup and arranger rotate as per song, which makes for more detail than PA would put on the album page. But one thing I notice right off is that, when you get down to it, only two people are consistently present on the record: Luciano Regoli and legendary drummer Walter Martino. Though credited as a main member on the PA album page, Gardin only appears on two songs; and Civitenga appears on only three songs, in all of which he plays bass and only in the last one does he pick up the guitar (!) and even supply some keyboards. So who is "in the band" and who is a "participant"? Maybe there is no "band" per se, and the drummer was just more available than anyone else. Can someone else clear this up? In a group effort maybe we can get this right. I was originally going to just give names, but I'll just go ahead and go through the trouble of clearing up the whole business. First duties given are those most employed. Other than my breaking out the two most consistent players at the top, the order of names given is that of the album credits; from what I can tell just looking at the credits, this list does not necessarily reflect level of involvement - perhaps there's some reason for it. The credits list in parentheses the bands people were/are involved in. I'm going to trust in the accuracy of this list and just give it. If anyone notices any omissions feel free to indicate them. Note well Cherry Five, discussed after the list. Incidentally, there are some other background singers and instrumentalists, some of which even play more important roles from the look of it, but since they aren't given in the primary list (instead they're listed under "also...") I'll leave them out here. Luciano Regoli: voice, guitar, rhythm guitar (RRR, Ritratto di Dorian Gray, Samadhi, DGM) Walter Martino: drums, percussion (RRR, Goblin, Lybra, Ritratto di Dorian Gray) Nanni Civitenga: bass, guitar, keyboard, arranger of track 6 (RRR, Samadhi) Roberto Gardin: bass, guitar, solo guitar, arr. tks. 2, 7 (RRR, Ritratto di Dorian Gray) Claudio Simonetti: guitar, bass, keyboard, piano, vocoder, hammond organ, arr. tk. 5 [actually, the only song he appears on] (Goblin, Ritratto di Dorian Gray, Cherry Five) Lino Vairetti: harmonica (Osanna) Nicola Di Staso: solo guitar (Lybra) Maurizio Pariotti: keyboards, arr. tks. 1, 3, 4 (DGM) Carl Verheyen: I scoured the credits up and down and I cannot find him anywhere, yet he's listed! (Supertramp) Fabio Pignatelli: Rickenbacker bass (Goblin, Cherry Five, Le Rivelazioni) As you can see, each name is followed by the bands the individual was involved with. But I noticed the curious omission of the band name Cherry Five from any list. I added the credit to the above list myself, in non-italicized font. The band Ritratto di Dorian Gray (Picture of Dorian Gray) preceded Cherry Five, as I learned from Andrea's review of the Cherry Five album, but membership was not the same. I don't know whether the omission of Cherry Five from the lists is just oversight, or something political/personal, or something else. Weird how Verheyen, session guitarist who appeared on Supertramp's last two studio albums, is listed as a member but then not shown as a player on any song. In addition to the things listed above there is also present on the album some flute, sax, violin and female vocal work. Finally, the color vinyl is nicely done. The record is a good solid weight, with a random black and red pattern and a beautiful inner label bearing another image from a painting by Regoli. From the look of it there are two more tracks on the CD (maybe that's where the missing persons are), but I don't care. I'm more than pleased with the packaging. And now there's just one thing to do... listen... |
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Raff
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 08:28 |
You got that translation almost right, AK! Anyway, it says that all the lyrics are taken from Regoli's book ("The Flying Painter"). I found the use of 'liriche' a bit odd, since in Italian we would normally use 'testi' - another instance of the pervasive influence of English on our language (something I am not particularly crazy about).
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American Khatru
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 08:42 |
I knew you'd have the breakdown, thanks Raff. And please out there, cease the incursion of English onto one of the Earth's loveliest languages!!
Anyway, I'd love to hear what others have to say about my eyes-only write up, and I'd be honored if any of this were to be used on the site. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 08:50 |
Oooh awesome....looking forward to a first review from someone. I'm amazed at the depth of the project, how they are offering special editions and such quality for a band like RRR, I think it says alot about how there is a good core fan base for the 70s RPI bands.
Get this, I am told by Black Widow that there will be a new Jacula album coming, the third. Let's just hope Antonio and Doris, by using that legendary name, embrace the vibe of that band as opposed to releasing just another Antonius Rex album under the Jacula name. By this I mean slower tracks, more organic sound, less techno vibe, the old world feel. We'll see if that is possible without Charles Tiring who passed away years ago. I think it could be great if they do it right. |
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