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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Cryptic? Use all the Roundup you want, won't be using any here. I do not have a problem with weeds, I just pull them out by the root and toss them on the compost pile, except some I leave for the honeybees and songbirds.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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But that is by-the-by. I am not defending Monsanto, GMO or Roundup herbicide. Bad analysis of bad science is bad no matter who does it and for whatever reason.
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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Excellent article. The function of the central bank is to regulate the financial system of the country. Most central banks in large countries fail at this. In India, access to banking channels is unavailable to large parts of the country, i.e., the interiors and also to certain classes of people. In China, shadow banking is given the tacit blessings of the govt. Why? Because this creates a black hole where all these junk notes can submerge and pinning down the proximate cause of the bubble would become extremely difficult. The usual tactic of central banks is to claim they are understaffed and their budget is too low for such a massive regulatory operation. At the same time, they resist govt efforts to create another financial regulator (so that the responsibility of the central bank is monetary policy alone). The reasons are not hard to find. Big banks in most countries are very profitable and boast powerful balance sheets so it suits them to keep the central bank 'liberal' and 'friendly'. Note that Raghuram Rajan sounded out central bankers on the risks at least a year and a half before the crash but both Summers and Paulson rode roughshod over his words. I am still not convinced that say Dubya or Clinton would have wanted to regulate had they really grasped the risks involved to the economy. It may have been even more insidious and treacherous but we will never know for sure.
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Fine for most annual weeds, not so good for perenial weeds, but whatever works for you obviously works for you. However, it's not stunningly relevant to a Libertarian world where the topic of the day was regulation vs free market in determining whether a product is safe.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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I find it quite relevant.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Independent regulation of scientific study, and specifically trials and testing, is a paramount requirement that goes beyond issues of trust or market forces. This applies to all scientific study regardless of who performs it and for whatever reason it is performed for.
To recap the "Monsanto" issues so far.
As consumers we should not be guilty of double-standards. If we expect that manufacturers are held to a proscribed standard then we must insist that those opposing them are held to the same standard and vice versa. If we accept "bad science" as the defacto standard for agenda-based studies then we have no means to combat that same level of "bad science" in any scientific study. Regulation is the means to monitor the standards used in industry, studies that set out to discredit approved products are not regulated and that is not a healthy situation - we would not accept hearsay and anecdotal evidence from Monsanto so why should we accept it from critics of Monsanto?
Left to market forces manufacturers will not "up their game" - if they are getting away with "bad science" under regulation then that can only get worse with deregulation, they will descend to the level set by their critics.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Well said.
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16837 |
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I just want to stop by this thread to post this picture:
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I think I know this one... is it the guy with the gun?
So, remind me again - how many American Presidents have been shot at?
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16837 |
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I think the tragic one was with Kennedy, I mean there are a lot of rumors about that all the time...
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Well, i think the redcoats shot at George Washington.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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He wasn't president then. (I believe John Hancock was).
If we count being shot at before becoming President then the Japanese shot at JFK.
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65550 |
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I'm hoping someday technology will allow a far deeper analysis of the photographic and sound evidence from Dallas, it's fifty years this November and with all the new discoveries and insights, the ARRB, all the books, I can't say we're any closer to finding the definitive truth.
Occam's Razor where are you? We sure could use you in this case. |
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16837 |
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We can only speculate, because I think he was a really good US president, probably one of the best the US has had.
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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He was commander in chief, close enough.
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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He wasn't president then.
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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^ Hancock was president of Congress not the president of The united states. Never heard him referred to as "Father of the country". But it is a silly argument so you win John Hancock it s.
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32552 |
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And Jodie Foster is a lesbian. ![]() |
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