Political discussion thread

I'm either voting for my dog Tuesday or Roseanne for president- I haven't decided yet. 

timothy leary wrote: Epignosis wrote: Americans should hide their money to avoid taxation.  Taxation is theft.  Weeee.  So it is okay for big profitable corporations to avoid taxes by parking billions of american dollars in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes on that money while the family man has to pay up. I am not asking about whether taxation is theft which I will readily agree with.

(Fixin yer quote)

The average family man doesn't pay up.  He gets a tax credit.  EITC.  MWP.  Additional Child Tax Credit.

47% not only pay no federal income taxes- they get a check back.

With the federal government unable to agree on much of anything, state and local taxpayers are bearing the burden for repairing and replacing America's aging infrastructure says a new report from Standard & Poor’s Rating Services.

Drew wrote: I'm either voting for my dog Tuesday or Roseanne for president- I haven't decided yet.

You named your dog "Tuesday or Roseanne"? I quite like the idea of including an alternate pet name. "The Hobbit or There and Back Again," "Moby Dick, or the Whale," "Fido or St. Eusebius of Vercelli," "Whiskers or Paw and Order"

timothy leary wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/09/19/heres-why-the-47-percent-argument-is-an-abuse-of-tax-data/

That article points out that the 47% number doesn't include state and local taxes, which is fair enough, but it's also fair to use the 47% number, because the context it's used in is always about federal tax policy, not about state and local tax policy. Federal taxes go towards things like the military, which benefits everyone, so why should 47% get a free ride on military protection? They don't get one on police protection. I think it's fair to use the forty-seven percent number in the context of federal tax policy discussions.

I said taxes Bobby. We are retirees. We paid federal taxes. We worked our entire life. Where is our representation. Stabbing us in the back. Data does not mean much when we pay federal taxes. Work long enough and hard enough and you will find out.

We meaning my wife and I. You aren't throwing off anything. You are going to work like a good dad should and providing for your family. I did what i had to do, so will you.

George Will...Romney: 321 electoral votes

I don't think so......though I'd love to see the polls wrong.  I still have this weird feeling R might pull it out. 

Epignosis wrote: Finnforest wrote: George Will...Romney: 321 electoral votes I don't think so......though I'd love to see the polls wrong.  I still have this weird feeling R might pull it out.  I'd like to think the disillusionment with Obama has occured.

I can't imagine that Obama could win after four years of the slowest recovery in history, but I can't imagine that Romney could win with the polls the way they are. Either the polls are wrong or the cult of personality is now more important to people than their own personal well-being. Sadly, I expect it's the latter.

Thing with the polls is that many use 2008 models of turnout.  If Obama managed to hold that turnout or not let it slip too much, he's in.  But if 2012 turnout is way different, a lot of media types will have egg on their face.  Especially after working so hard to elect their golden boy.