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Epignosis wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: GaryB wrote: Criminals don't care about new gun laws because the job description of their chosen profession is to break the law. In fact, criminals like gun control laws because it makes their job easier by making their victims more vulnerable. Actually criminals love our lack of gun control laws because they can get their hands on all kinds of weapons.  Exactly!  Just like drug dealers like our lack of drug laws because they can get their hands on all kinds of drugs! Oh wait.

You wot?

Dean, is there any hope for the UK?

Hope of what by the way?

And the idiocy of people who think everybody who posts here with an opposing view is a rich spoiled kid gives even less hope.

"The middle class is getting wiped out by the selfish rich" is one of those things people love to say without thinking, because it sounds good.

How are the rich hurting the middle class? What should they be doing differently? How would the rich paying more taxes make the average joe better off?

thellama73 wrote: Dean wrote:   I really don't care whether the USA repels its gun laws, I'm not overly concerned that each city in the USA appears to have "no-go" areas and drive-by shootings are the norm rather than the exception. I'm not really that fussed whether you have socialised healthcare or not, whether you all pay tax and have gasoline at $3.00/gal or don't pay any tax at all and grow your own biogas. If the people want to justify their chosen lifestyle based upon a 221 year old document that was written for a different society in a different world then that's perfectly fine by me, if people want to use flimsy tautologies to reinforce their logic then go ahead, I'm not that bothered. I can say all these things because I do not live in the USA - if things were different, then perhaps I would - certainly when I was growing up in the depressing greyness of 70s Britain everything about the USA was a facination to me - everything was bigger and brasher and brighter and it was my dream to one day emigrate there. I have visited the US several times since then and I no longer have that dream.   That's not remotely true. I have lived in most of the biggest cities in the US and have never seen a mugging, much less a shooting. I can't remember the last time I even heard about a drive by shooting. I think your perception of the US is overly colored by movies.

I think my perception of the USA is overly coloured by being in San Franscisco, Los Angeles and Austin and from reading news reports of murders that occured during my visits in the local newspapers (during my first visit to SF a six year old kid blew his own face off with a gun he found in his father's closet for crying out loud), I think my perception of those cities is overly coloured by my US work collegues advising me not to visit particular areas of those cities while I was there. Sure I did not list all the uses of guns and gun related crime in the USA or draw on the reams of statistics that show the USA has by far higher incidents of gun-crime than any other western country. If we were to judge crime statistics based upon what we saw in fictional TV series and block-buster films then all countries appear to be full of gun-crazed hoodlums, bandits and psycopaths - just watch few episodes of The Killing (Denmark), Wallander (Sweden), Spiral (France) or any British BBC police Drama for exactly the same depictions of sadistic violence you see on US dramas. Just how gullable do you think I am?

There's no way in hell I'd visit the UK.  I read the first four pages of A Clockwork Orange.  

thellama73 wrote: Dean wrote: Just how gullable do you think I am? Somewhat gullible?

Acceptable.

^ That was incredibly embarrassing. What a thoughtless, arrogant thing for a president to do.

Dean wrote: Bradley Wiggins has just won the Tour de France, Chris Frome was second, Mark Cavendish sprinted past all his rivals to win the stage and Lesley Garrett sang God Save The Queen on the Champs Elysees. There is always hope.

Yes. Yet in the sport you invented, the biggest in the world by far, is only a chain of failure after failure, amd the only success is owed to a totally "blind" Russian referee in 1966...

Epignosis wrote: There's no way in hell I'd visit the UK.  I read the first four pages of A Clockwork Orange.

Clockwork Orange paints a very distorted picture of our youth, here in the UK..

In reality, our youth don't have the charm, sophistication, wit or indeed the vocabulary of Alex and his droogs...