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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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It's possible that you are right, however it does not make up for 4 years of "ERMAGERD, HE'S A KERNYERN MERSLERM TERRST!! WHER'S HIS BERTH CERTERFERCERT!" |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17350 |
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To be fair, those kinds of comments are not from the R campaign.......but yeah, there is always the silly season fringers on both sides
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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The R campaign hasn't been much better - for four years they've touted Obama as the weakest President ever, as far as foreign policy goes - Romney himself did this, and then all of a sudden in the 3rd debate he agrees with Obama on everything...and touts himself as a great leader. Yeah...you're a great leader..."follow me! I'll be right behind the President!" Now, RRomney/yan are going around making their closing arguments, saying that Obama has been making bad investments with the government's money, and that half of what he's invested in has gone bankrupt. But actually, if you do the math, it's 8%. Look at the investments made while Romney was at Bain - 22% went bankrupt. Everything that man says is a misdirection or a lie. Every...single...thing. For four years the Republicans in office have purposely sabotaged the country in order to make Obama look bad so that they can turn around and say "look what he did to our country!" Look at their voting records - especially Ryan's. During the Bush administration, he voted for bailouts, raising debt ceiling, protecting veteran's rights, etc. Obama becomes president, and all of a sudden his positions completely reverse. For the last four years, the #1 priority in the R camp has been to make Obama look bad - not fight terrorism, not protect the helpless and poor, not protect American's rights. |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17350 |
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And the Dems were just pixies and lollipops to Pres. Bush.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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quite probably.
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What?
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smartpatrol ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2012 Location: My Bedroom Status: Offline Points: 14169 |
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Vote for Gary Johnson, okay? I'll give you a present if you do
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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That's not even an argument. Look, I have not yet met a Republican who actually likes Romney, so the way I see it: You vote for Obama, half the people in America will be upset for the next four years. You vote for Romney and 100% of the people in America will be upset for the next four years. |
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HackettFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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I'm with you on this. |
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Argonaught ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 04 2012 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 1413 |
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I will do the same even without a present ... in the same breath, what was the present? |
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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Let's go back to this, because I've been thinking about it. Now, I don't actually watch very many commercials (in the past I've DVR'd everything, and now I stream Netflix and Hulu to a Roku device), but from what I've seen...aren't most of the attacks from the Obama campaign "he's a liar, here's why", whereas most of the attacks from the Romney campaign are "lie lie lie lie BIG FAT LIE lie lie"? |
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smartpatrol ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2012 Location: My Bedroom Status: Offline Points: 14169 |
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The satisfaction of voting for Gary Johnson and a free download of my album |
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Argonaught ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 04 2012 Location: Virginia Status: Offline Points: 1413 |
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And, the harder the campaigns sweat to "compare and contrast" the distinguished candidates, the more they both look like each other, and like the erstwhile "Decider". We recently received (yet another) Romney pamphlet. On the left-hand page Mr. Romney takes a subtle shot at Mr. Obama, who "must have sleep-walked into the Oval Office to think that governments create jobs". |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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"Romney is a bullsh*tter". Obama.
Yes that shows a classy campaign. 4 years ago Obama was the one running a decent campaing and McCain a sad, offensive one. Things have changed. And yes, saying that your performance in your work has been terrible is not offensive, even if it is not necessarily true. |
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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He is. Unrelated (somewhat) - I just read this article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/ My first thought was: "you keep using that word, 'Conservative' - I do na think it-a means what you think it-a means." Actually, no, my first thought was "Oh...my...gosh...I can't believe what a LIE the Republican party is! All these years of pretending they're something they haven't been for so long!" (Former, now very jaded, Republican here.) |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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^I assume you will vote for Obama?
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17350 |
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I'm not here to argue with you. Just saying you act as if what the Repubs do is something unique. It isn't. Former, now very jaded, Democrat/Green. ![]() |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Former kind-of-socialist/social-libertarian here.
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17350 |
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Apparently PA has tightened also but without resources being spent there I think that is highly unlikely to flip.
It is also quite possible that this could be another election where Romney wins the USA popular vote, and loses the election. |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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dtguitarfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 24 2011 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 1708 |
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Heck yes - I actually like the guy, as opposed to the "lesser of two evils" argument I keep hearing from my Republican friends (I live in TN, so...my wife and I are the only people I know of who are voting this way). When even a Republican is willing to admit their choice is evil, that's telling, because the only reason they believe the Democrat is evil is because the evil Republicans told them he is! |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32559 |
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Hmm... That article says one thing but demonstrates something else entirely. That Obama may have had the smallest growth in federal spending of any President since Eisenhower isn't what the headline says. Assuming a one year term: President A spends $100 President B spends $115 (+15%) President C spends $180 (+56.5%) President D spends $185 (+2.7%) A first grader could tell you that President D is the biggest spender, even if he grew the budget less than three percent. When you're $16 million million in debt and borrowing 43 cents for every dollar you spend, getting the trophy for having the "slowest spending growth" isn't much of an honor. Edited by Epignosis - October 27 2012 at 15:27 |
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