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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 21:34
 
 

Great link Faaips ! Totally agree with this guy about Troll and Musique Noise. Avoid, avoid, avoid !

 

 

 

 
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Good luck ol' chap!



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Ah, ok i wil stay away from thoses two then.

To bad to, Troll sounded like they'd be neat



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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 21:43
 
I don't know if it's the dodgy translator or not but I'm lovin' some of this geezers classifying...
 
 
Soul Zeuhl
Tamla Zeuhl
Death Zeuhl
 
 
          ...inspired !
 
 
(and the Ruins bit at the end rounds things off nicely) !
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Ah, ok i wil stay away from thoses two then.

To bad to, Troll sounded like they'd be neat
 
 
There is one Troll/Altmayer track on the excellent Musea zeuhl sampler 'Enneade' which is really sweet. Don't make the mistake I did of getting the only available LP/CD 'Troll 2' I left my copy next to garbage bins outside Tescos with a warning note.
 
 
 
 
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Haha, And Vortex is Zombie Zeuhl !

How cool is that!



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Points: 529 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 21:49
Haha i wonder i anyone Heeded your Warning?



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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 21:52

 




　MICHEL ALTMAYER　

TROLL Vol.2
(Face 3)
1．IGOR - DANCE & REJOICING
2．BREAK DOWN
3．UD IOR LESS ORDEK !!!
4．IMPRESSIONS FOR TOMORROW		 (Face 4)
1．ANKH (CARROUSEL CELESTE)
2．WHEN COME THE NIGHT
3．SOME WORDS ABOUT TRANE
Michel Altmayer：drums, keyboards, vocal, bass
Nathalie Basset：alto violin
Bernard Paganotti：bass, chapman stick
Francis Moze：bass
Roger Altmayer：congas
Raphael Salvemini：guitar
Hekene Houillon：violin
Philippe Houillon：violin
Jean-Luc Schaeffer：trumpet
Yvon Guillard：trumpet
Alain Guillard：sax
Olivier Moingeon：trombone
Benoit Schaeffer：flute
Stella Vander：vocal
Guy Khalifa：vocal
Klaus Blasquiz：vocal

　ミシェル・アルトマイエールは70年代中盤に活動していたトロルというアンダーグラウンドなバンドの中心人物である。記憶が定かではないが、トロルの前身バンド？（マンドラゴラ）には、80年代になってソロ活動で有名になったジャン・パスカル・ボフォが在籍していたらしい。マンドラゴラおよびトロルは共にZeuhl系（マグマ関連）の音楽性をもったバンドあるが、今で言うインディーズレベルの活動であったらしく、作品はカセットテープでのみ発表されていたようだ。
　このアルバムは1988年に発表されたミシェル・アルトマイエールのソロ・アルバムであり、77年～84年までのトロルの曲が収められている。豪華なゲストを迎えて、86～87年にかけて録音されたものである。面白い事にアルバムタイトルがTROLL Vol.2で、アナログＡ面がFace３・Ｂ面がFace４となっている。Vol.１という作品の存在を匂わせるが、どうやら未発表であるらしい。尚、ミシェル・アルトマイエールのその後の活動もあまり知られていないが、2003年に出されたATOLLの新作「Illian, J'entends gronder la Terre」にドラムで参加している。
　肝心の内容はZeuhl系というには余りにも軽いフレンチ・フュージョンっぽい作品だが、アルトマイエール本人もマグマ人脈のゲスト陣も凄腕のプレイヤーだけあって引き締まった演奏である。ほとんどの曲が英詩で歌われていること・アルトマイエールの歌い方がムーディー過ぎること・イジーリスニング調の曲が多いことを考えると、トロル本来の持ち味とは違ったニュアンスで録音し直したと思わざるをえない。（だって、Zeuhl系のアングラ・バンドがこんな普通の綺麗なフュージョン音楽をやっていたはずがないから。）
　否定的な感想になってしまったが、すべてが悪いということではない。１曲目「IGOR - DANCE &REJOICING」はIGORという名前から想像できるように、ストラビンスキーのような風変わりで雄大なメロディーとリズムが反復する曲で、ステラ・バンダーとクラウス・ブラスキの目の覚めるような歌声が満喫できる。３曲目「UD IOR LESS ORDEK !!!」は跳ね回るようなバイオリンとはじけたリズムが楽しい。そして極めつけが５曲目の「ANKH 」である。比較的単純なフレーズを繰り返す曲であるが、ナタリー・バセット（多分奥さん？）の奏でる艶やかで情感溢れるアルト・バイオリンが素晴らしく、それをサポートする２本のバイオリンとホーンセクションが相まって非常にクラシカルかつ壮大な曲に仕上っている。
 
 
 
 
  
 
 


 
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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 21:55
 
Check that line-up ! It's like a dream ! Gotta be the biggest mistake in my life ! Bigger than marrying my first ex-wife
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Incidentally the Japanese reviewer thinks it's not too bad...
 
 
 
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edit: double post.
 
 
 


Edited by Yukorin - September 26 2006 at 22:01
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Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha, And Vortex is Zombie Zeuhl !

How cool is that!
 
 
Have you heard the Vortex LPs Faaip ? Absolutely essential Zombie Zeuhl !
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha i wonder i anyone Heeded your Warning?


 
 
Knowing Tescos they probably managed to sell it
 
 
 
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Yuko, a question for you on two French bands: Verto and Vortex.
They are on the ZART (Zeuhl/Avant/RIO Team) list of to be added bands (after voting). Not much info is to be found on them (and their albums are not too easy to find either and sample are also hard to come by).
You know them? If so (and you probably do), what are your thoughts?
 
Some links:
Vortex -
http://mitglied.lycos.de/RafaelKozub/zeu/d/vort/1.htm
 
 
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2005/09/adventures_in_t.html
 
 
 
 
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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2006 at 23:26
 
Hi avers,
 
Vortex are an essential part of the Zeuhl ZigZaw so please add 'em !
 
        Verto is kinda like NWW meets Heldon. Very avant-garde
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha, And Vortex is Zombie Zeuhl !

How cool is that!
 
 
Have you heard the Vortex LPs Faaip ? Absolutely essential Zombie Zeuhl !
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unfortunatly i havn't.
But have they been reissued unto  Digital format yet?
Because they sound Extra Awesome!

Same With 'Hellebore'



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Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha i wonder i anyone Heeded your Warning?


 
 
Knowing Tescos they probably managed to sell it
 
 
 
This Tesco's place sounds alot like this Nameless Thrift store i live near (with nothing but Kenny G albums.. And the occasional Asia Cassette Tape). But somehow everytime my little brothers goes down there he come's back with a cup warmer, and a 50 cent popcorn maker.



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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2006 at 00:54
Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

Originally posted by Faaip_De_Oiad Faaip_De_Oiad wrote:

Haha, And Vortex is Zombie Zeuhl !

How cool is that!
 
 
Have you heard the Vortex LPs Faaip ? Absolutely essential Zombie Zeuhl !
 
 
 
 
 
 
Unfortunatly i havn't.
But have they been reissued unto  Digital format yet?
Because they sound Extra Awesome!

Same With 'Hellebore'
 
Both Hellebore and Vortex are available in binary. God knows where  to find 'em though. Musea perhaps ?
 
 
 
 
                             (thought I sent Hellebore Faaip)
 
 
 
 
 
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Anyone know anything about this band? They are hear on the archives under prog-folk, but they were no that guy's list

Saga De Ragnar Lodbrock

I was a little sucked in via the Tolkien Zeuhl

This is the review someone wrote on this site.

SAGA DE RAGNAR LODBROCK — Saga De Ragnar Lodbrock

Review by hola

4 stars What to say, this album scares me so much, it has voices throw silence, and you feel being into a medieval casttle, with a ghostly man singing in the dark....well, that was my first impressions when i heard this album, and certainly has strong moments how it has weak instances...well, i recommend to people who loves hearing a voice who is the leader of the music....maybe you'll feel dissapointed, because it isn't true prog, but it you appreciatte all the experimental grounds musicians could explore, i say go and hear in a cd store this disc, and if you like it, buy it!!



Also love this one:

Sleaze Art - decidedly crowds, where never a quintetto has been looked at of low electrical workers! Bass zeuhl.
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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 27 2006 at 01:41
 
Welcome back BV !
 
I could swear I've heard the Saga De Ragnar Lodbrock LP. Can't say for sure whether it is Tolkien Zeuhl or CS Lewis Zeuhl. Hola's review sounds like it would be right up your avenue !
 
 
 
 
 
 
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