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Posted: May 10 2013 at 15:11

I just start with Zappa and I have that strange feeling that it will never end Smile

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Posted: May 10 2013 at 15:48

hellogoodbye wrote:

I just start with Zappa and I have that strange feeling that it will never end Smile

I've been into Zappa since 2006, and I'm still discovering new things. Admittedly I wasn't listening much between 2009 and 2012, but I've been obsessed since last November, and never thought it would last this long (7 months so far), I keep buying new albums I don't have yet, when I think I'm good, I need more, and there's more albums planned for release in 2013.

It WILL never end...

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Posted: May 10 2013 at 18:38

Hot Rats & Grand Wazoo.

Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 01:26

You wish.

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 07:03

Don't tease me like that.

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 13:21

darkshade wrote:

hellogoodbye wrote:

I just start with Zappa and I have that strange feeling that it will never end Smile

My first experience with Zappa was via The Mothers in 1968.....this girl who sat next to me in English class was a fan and turned me onto them. Over the years I have remained a fan but never really got into all the posthumous releases.

btw are you a Beefheart fan..... have found that many Zappa fans seem to like the Captain also.

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 13:46

dr wu23 wrote:

darkshade wrote:

hellogoodbye wrote:

I just start with Zappa and I have that strange feeling that it will never end Smile

btw are you a Beefheart fan..... have found that many Zappa fans seem to like the Captain also.

I don't have any Beefheart albums at the moment, though I like anything with him in Zappa's catalog.
I've heard random songs over the years, and they're interesting, I just haven't taken the time to explore his music.

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 15:30

He had some nice quotes. He's music is a mixture of everything if you ask me

Try listening to Apostrophe or Bobby Brown goes down this two are my favourite.

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 21:26

darkshade wrote:

dr wu23 wrote:

darkshade wrote:

hellogoodbye wrote:

I just start with Zappa and I have that strange feeling that it will never end Smile

btw are you a Beefheart fan..... have found that many Zappa fans seem to like the Captain also.

The Captain has a PA page here...ck him out.

Clear Spot is my favorite lp by him...it's one of the more accessible lp's.

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 22:16

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Posted: May 11 2013 at 23:41

That's a great picture.

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Posted: May 12 2013 at 01:10

Listening to a soundboard '73 show with Jean-Luc Ponty and Sal Marquez, and I really hope the ZFT comes out with an album featuring this lineup soon. I mean, if Philly 76 could be released, why not one from the famous "lost' FZ band?
It's like Roxy but even more jazz-fusion.

That, and then Roxy By Proxy and Dance Me This, and you've got so many 'holes' in Zappa's discography filled.

Edited by darkshade - May 12 2013 at 01:13

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Posted: May 12 2013 at 08:15

That would be nice. I'm not sure if I've heard a show with Sal Marquez yet. Is that roughly from the "Piquantique" period? (i.e. Petit Wazoo)?

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 09:32

It's from the Piquantique period, but that era is after the Petite Wazoo, before the Roxy lineup with Napoleon Murphy Brock. I have soundboard shows from that band, and they sound great, it's Frank Zappa doing classic 70s fusion, with a very small percentage of songs with vocals. An early and very different version of 50/50 is all kinds of funky goodness, and the aforementioned "Indespensible" Sal Marquez sings an early 'cocktail lounge' version of Inca Roads. And Jean-Luc Ponty all over the music, unbelievable. I can't believe this band hasn't been given any kind of official release, besides the couple of nuggets from The Lost episodes.

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 09:58

It's coming back to me now. I think I once talked to somebody who went to one of those shows. He described it to me and I wasn't even aware that lineup/repertoire ever existed. I agree, we need an official release there. Sounds like some good live recordings exist.

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 10:11

They're great performances. Dupree's Paradise is like a whole different song. I recommend 1973/06/25 Sydney, Australia, and 1973/08/21 Stockholm, Sweden (the show most of Piquantique comes from)

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 10:32

I have this show - is this the kind of stuff you mean?

Frank Zappa 1973-03-11 Texas Hall UTA Arlington Texas (Gesture of Contempt) (T-34) from the original analog tapes

Band Members:

Frank Zappa - Jean-Luc Ponty - Bruce Fowler - Ian Underwood - Tom Fowler - Ruth Underwood - George Duke - Ralph Humphrey

Disc 1

1. (intro and tune up)
2. RDNZL
3. Exercise 4 / Dog Breath / The Dog Breath Variations / Uncle Meat
4. Fifty-Fifty
5. (deviation explanation)
6. Ralph Deviates First (with audience participation including
the imaginary diseases of the future story)
7. Inca Roads
8. Montana
9. George Duke's Solo
10. (improvisations including The Mystery Song #2)

Disc 2

1. Mr. Green Genes / King Kong / Chunga's Revenge / Mr. Green Genes (reprise)

Bonus Material:

2. Kansas Is Fer Real
(The Mothers after a show approx. 1968 or 1969 backstage and in the van going to get something to eat.)

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 12:42

I guess Sal Marquez came in later, though he was in the Wazoo bands. That looks like a great set. I may have to get it.

By the way, what say we move this thread to the appreciation section, no?

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 13:04

Makes sense. I always have a hard time finding it at first because it's not where I expect it to be.

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Posted: May 13 2013 at 14:37

darkshade wrote:

dr wu23 wrote:

darkshade wrote:

hellogoodbye wrote:

I just start with Zappa and I have that strange feeling that it will never end Smile

btw are you a Beefheart fan..... have found that many Zappa fans seem to like the Captain also.

I don't have any Beefheart albums at the moment, though I like anything with him in Zappa's catalog. I've heard random songs over the years, and they're interesting, I just haven't taken the time to explore his music.

Ice Cream For Crow or Doc At The Radar Station are good starting points for someone coming in to Beefheart by way of Zappa.

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