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Polymorphia ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: AČ Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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Because people only needed one folding cover to roll their joints on?
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18058 |
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Hardly!
You could smoke the cardboard and get higher faster!
![]() I've always had this kind of idea that the double album was a band's attempt to make it look like they were "better" than just a pop song or two. But it also gave rise to the idea that you could put songs in a certain order, and then tell people that a story was there, and no one would know any better! The Beatles White Album is exactly that. There might be something here, or not!
All in all, I was never worried about it being single or double LP. I had already enjoyed many operas and other works that were fairly long, so seeing a band do something more than just a song, was kinda cool. "Tommy" being called a "rock opera" was abusing the word and priviledge for my ideas, and in some ways, it broke the "mold" for what "opera" should be about, something that even Roger Waters did not listen to or pay attention to with "Ca Ira".
AD2's "Made in Germany" is also supposed to be a concept album and was originally a double LP, that was cut down for American release into a single album. But by the time you try to figure out ... where's the story? ... it's almost like it doesn't matter, and sometimes I don't like that in rock music, which is a bow to the fans, but sometimes not exactly a bow to the music itself (or the idea/concept!), but at least you know they are not playing an idea of music, like "rock'n'roll", which has become so meaningless it's not funny! Edited by moshkito - March 16 2014 at 10:15 |
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20032 |
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Really? What "story" did the Beatles say was in The Beatles then?
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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it goes something like this: "Nora Helmer once secretly borrowed a large sum of money so that her husband could recuperate from a serious illness. She never told him of this loan and has been secretly paying it back in small instalments by saving from her household allowance. Her husband, Torvald, thinks her careless and childlike, and often calls her his doll. When he is appointed bank director, his first act is to relieve a man who was once disgraced for having forged his signature on a document. This man, Nils Krogstad, is the person from whom Nora has borrowed her money. It is then revealed that she forged her father's signature in order to get the money. Krogstad threatens to reveal Nora's crime and thus disgrace her and her husband unless Nora can convince her husband not to fire him. Nora tries to influence her husband, but he thinks of Nora as a simple child who cannot understand the value of money or business. Thus, when Torvald discovers that Nora has forged her father's name, he is ready to disclaim his wife even though she had done it for him. Later when all is solved, Nora sees that her husband is not worth her love and she leaves him."
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What?
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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This, of course never ever ever happened. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Because many double albums are boring as hell. We have as many as are necessary.
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bhikkhu ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 06 2006 Location: AČ Michigan Status: Offline Points: 5109 |
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Oh no, it's just an urban legend I heard.
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m2thek ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: November 12 2009 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 220 |
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From the band's perspective: they're probably very costly to make, both in terms of money and effort
From my perspective: They're usually not great
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13221 |
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At any given time in their careers, very few bands have enough decent material to fill one album, let alone a double album. We're not talking B sides or alternate takes, but songs that are actually worthwhile for a double album. Also, back when double albums were the rage, a band usually had to have some serious clout and cajones to release a double album.
And there's folks like George Harrison, who released the triple album All Things Must Pass, which was the greatest double album with six sides ever made.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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Atavachron ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65590 |
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That's incredible-- now, where does Rocky Raccoon fit in to this intrigue? Why so few double albums? Cause it's very, very hard. |
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Kati ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
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Recently, considering that most prog bands do not get a return for their money/investment for their cd sales, this is a fact why most do not produce double albums, also a big reason is the cost I think, CDBaby who are one of the biggest distributors in the world charge twice the amount for a double album compared to a normal one, thus equal as two different albums, postage in terms of weight also does play a major role I think.
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Polymorphia ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 06 2012 Location: here Status: Offline Points: 8856 |
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Two-sided as well. Why do I forget these things? ![]() Edited by Polymorphia - March 16 2014 at 22:57 |
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ole-the-first ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2012 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 1534 |
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Agreed. I believe that nearly 90% of double albums are way too inconsistent. If it comes to concept albums, then often on those double LPs the concept just devours music, making the record sound boring and unenthusiastic, if it' just a bunch of songs on two LPs, like 'Psychical Graffity', then those LPs suffer very often of the lack of consistency, with a bunch of very weak and unmemorable fillers beside the real good songs. I believe that if you'll cut down any double LP to a 40 or 50 minutes long sigle LP, then you'll get a real gem. Otherwise there's no wonder than even here almost all double LPs are losing contest to just the standard albums. No wonder there is only one double LP in the PA Top 100. Surprisingly, there was a bunch of excellent double LPs since 90's, such as Nine Inch Nail's 'The Fragile', but the very creation of those double albums takes a lot of time, much more than prog bands had back in 70's to make a record. |
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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There was also Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, another solid pop/rock double album from the 70's.
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JediJoker7169 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 05 2009 Location: West Coast, NA Status: Offline Points: 195 |
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Incorrect. 79.8 minutes is the upper threshold for Red Book-compliant CDs. That's two LPs of fairly standard length (~20 minutes per side).
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2dogs ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 03 2011 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 705 |
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Robert Rental & The Normal Live at West Runton Pavilion - but don't bother. |
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20032 |
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The Pessimist ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 13 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3834 |
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Because creating double albums are really really hard work
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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There's that old cliche that as a new band, you get 5 years to write your debut album and 3 months to write the second etc. Maybe a lot of bands are frightened of drying up at around the 3rd album stage so (wisely) keep material back to combat writer's block? ELP released four studio albums in 3 years which is kinda unheard of today. Have to agree with many of the posters that there are very few traditional 'doubles' that don't flag at least part of the way through. Still trying to think of an example in Prog that bucks this trend but ended up with only these plain vanilla rock/pop efforts:
London Calling - the Clash Exile on Main Street - Stones Oranges and Lemons - XTC Edited by ExittheLemming - March 17 2014 at 09:31 |
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