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ClemofNazareth 
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 Posted: February 23 2014 at 12:18 |
 Moogtron III wrote:
["claims Dahlenburgope I stay at my new home for at least 8 years.
Man With Hat wrote:
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At the moment that I write this you're the only one. I would have expected some more people. We're a nomadic lot; we prog lovers, so it seems.
Slartibartfast wrote:
Cool poll, I'm going to have to think aboutLet's see1. the place I was born which was a house I have vague memories of in Virginia. (I moved out of a vagina  )2. The second house in Virginia that my Dad actually drew the plans for.3. The Hightower Trail house where I really grew up at.4. Commage Collums (not it's real name)5. A crappy apartment complex that happened to be close to where I was working while I was still working.6. A much better complex close to the same job after my truck got ripped off at the former complex.6.5 when the apartment was renovating and I had to pick a new unit.7. Back at Hightower Trail after that job went away.8. A fairly nice apartment complex that was scraped off the map a few years ago and replaced with a Post.9. A house between two creeks, which was fairly nice until the flood of 2009.10. A halfway decent apartment complex for about a year that had a roach infestation and fire problem..I guess being back here doesn't count as 11, uh yeah it does. The older you get the harder it gets to move.Er me gerd.This is probably the place where I will die unless we become fantastically rich and can afford to move to Hawaii  |
Yeah, the first move seems to be the hardest for us all, traumatic experience  The 2009 flood I remember vividly from your posts on PA back then... It's not always easy to find a home that really suits your wishes Actually, the main reason why I'm moving to another job spot & house is because my wife is very unhappy at the place where we are now. True that the older you get, the moving becomes tougher. Well, I cannot lie, I'm looking forward to a new home and a new place to work, also closer to my family, but the whole business of packing...   <span style="line-height: 1.2;"> Just watch out for those hot spotters, them volcanoes. </span>
jude111 wrote:
More than 23. Even as a child, my parents moved nearly every other year or so. I guess it's in my blood. As soon as I was 17, I moved out, with a copy of Kerouac's On the Road in my pocket. When I discovered America was not the one described by Kerouac in the 50s, I headed for Central America, Europe and Asia. The places I've really liked and would have liked to stay (esp. France, Europe and Asia), unfortunately I couldn't; the places where I end up (partic. in the US) are places I hate and can't wait to move on... Right now, I'm stuck in Knoxville, Tennessee. As soon as my wife finishes her PhD within the next couple of years, hopefully we can get out of this dump. No offense. |
My family are all movers too. Also my in-laws. Is it in the genes? Maybe. Hope you get where you want to !  ClemofNazareth wrote:
19 I think. Might have missed a few. 8 U.S. states and 15 cities. Best - Chicago and South Dakota. Worst by far - Pennsylvania. |
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: February 23 2014 at 12:27 |
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Local government corruption in eastern Pennsylvania is rampant. Taxes are ridiculous, I pay thousands of dollars more here than anywhere else I've lived yet there are few services, more poverty, really bad schools, and the roads, bridges, parks and other infrastructure are crumbling. This is also the only place I've ever lived where people are widely and openly critical of their own community. Most cities I've lived in people seem to be proud of where they are from even if it's a humble place, but not so much here.
Might just be something in the water, not sure...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:08 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Local government corruption in eastern Pennsylvania is rampant. Taxes are ridiculous, I pay thousands of dollars more here than anywhere else I've lived yet there are few services, more poverty, really bad schools, and the roads, bridges, parks and other infrastructure are crumbling. This is also the only place I've ever lived where people are widely and openly critical of their own community. Most cities I've lived in people seem to be proud of where they are from even if it's a humble place, but not so much here.
Might just be something in the water, not sure...
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Okay, thanks for the explanation, and it doesn't sound good. Time to move once again? Well, that is, if you find the opportunity, of course . Once you're really settled somewhere, it's not always easy to move. If you have a good job, or a house with a mortgage, or children who don't want to move... Or you're just tired of moving once again. I read that you lived in Chicago, that's a city that I really like. I've got some family there, and I visited the city twice.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:08 |
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Counting university, 3 times
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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jude111
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Posted: February 23 2014 at 13:32 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Local government corruption in eastern Pennsylvania is rampant. Taxes are ridiculous, I pay thousands of dollars more here than anywhere else I've lived yet there are few services, more poverty, really bad schools, and the roads, bridges, parks and other infrastructure are crumbling. This is also the only place I've ever lived where people are widely and openly critical of their own community. Most cities I've lived in people seem to be proud of where they are from even if it's a humble place, but not so much here.
Might just be something in the water, not sure...
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This was always my impression of Pennsylvania as well. For a couple of years I lived on the Maryland/Pennsylvania border. The sad thing is, you can see that Pennyslvania *could* be one of the best places to live in the US. It still has those small towns and urban villages that could/should be resurrected. But Penn. also has some of the worst suburban sprawl I've ever seen in the eastern US...
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bloodnarfer
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Posted: February 23 2014 at 17:54 |
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Once to Purdue, once to Portland, once to Austin, so 3 times
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Barbu
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Posted: February 23 2014 at 17:58 |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 02:56 |
Didn't move during my first 10 years of life in Brussels.. (my parents owned the house) Then we moved five times while my parents were in Canada (13 years in Montreal then Toronto), but I had moved out twice more during that time (let's just say on parental/son differences).....Another two moves in Toronto in the next four years, before leaving North-Am (standard Cdn rental contract are one year- or two years mav, while Benelux are more the 3/6/9 years, before renewal) Three addresses since I've lived back in Brussels in now close to 25 years, but I've also had double (even trouple) residence since in the Benelux one in the Ardennes (where my old job kept me very often) and also an address in North Holland (job again) So I guess 15 is about right... and hopefully only three/four more moves maximum (to gather my stuff together), the last should be in a remote area (Southern France, Mid-Southern Chile , Southern New Zealand or Kelowna Valley, BC)... two of these destinations are only wishful thinking, one I haven't been in (NZ)
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someone_else
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 03:11 |
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My current address is the 7th. This means that I have moved 6 times in my life.
I live here for almost 19 years now and I hope some more will be added to it.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 04:14 |
If I counted well, from the people who filled in the poll, it's an average of almost 7 times moving. For a man's life span, one could add some more moves, of course.
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Dean
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 04:42 |
Moogtron III wrote:
If I counted well, from the people who filled in the poll, it's an average of almost 7 times moving.For a man's life span, one could add some more moves, of course. |
The average is kinda meaningless because it doesn't take age into account. I have moved more than you but I am older, so in my case I've moved 12 times in 56 years or once every 4.67 years compared your 10 times in 48 years, or once every 4.8 years ... whereas some of the younger folk have moved fewer times but because they are significantly younger may have moved more frequently.
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lazland
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Joined: October 28 2008
Location: Wales
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 07:10 |
This is fun. Let's think.
1. Born in West Germany (Dad in army) 2. Aldershot. Dad in army still, and sister born there 3. St Albans, Herts. Dad ran newsagent 4. Harlow, Essex. Dad worked at ITT 5. Wickford, Essex. Dad ran newsagent in partnership with his father in law, my grandfather 6. Babbinswood, Shropshire. Dad and mum reconciled following separation. He refused to go back to Essex 7. Pant, Shropshire. Move of home. Dad and mum split for last time 8. RAF for a short time, three locations. I left when my trade was privatised by the Blessed Margaret. 9. Welsh Walls, Oswestry, Shropshire. My first bachelor pad. 10. Hurdsman St., Oswestry. My first mortgage. 11. Meadow Rise, Oswestry. Rented. Had to sell house owing to state of skint ness. 12. Llansantffraid, Powys, Wales. Fun rented flat above garage. Fantastic drinking period. 13. Crest wood Court, Oswestry. Another attempt at home ownership, this time a flat. 14. Johnstown, Carmarthen, Wales. Moved on promotion with work. Rental first. 15. Johnstown, Carmarthen. Bought a house with wifey, and stepson and Laz junior there as well. 16. Johnstown, Carmarthen. Bigger bungalow. Fire damaged in 2012, so moved temporarily to....... 17. Llanybri, Wales. With mother in law 18. Porthyrhyd, Wales. Lovely house with wifey, Laz junior, and my in-laws together under the same roof. It gets busy
So, that is 20 times (including the different Air Force bases) in 49 years on this planet. I have moved, on average, slightly more than every two years. Do they call that restless arse syndrome?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 07:23 |
Dean wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
If I counted well, from the people who filled in the poll, it's an average of almost 7 times moving.For a man's life span, one could add some more moves, of course. |
The average is kinda meaningless because it doesn't take age into account. I have moved more than you but I am older, so in my case I've moved 12 times in 56 years or once every 4.67 years compared your 10 times in 48 years, or once every 4.8 years ... whereas some of the younger folk have moved fewer times but because they are significantly younger may have moved more frequently. |
Yes, you're absolutely right, of course. Members of the jury, don't take my statistics into considering 
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 07:33 |
lazland wrote:
So, that is 20 times (including the different Air Force bases) in 49 years on this planet. I have moved, on average, slightly more than every two years. Do they call that restless arse syndrome? |
The area around London is one thing, but especially Wales looks like a hectic place to live 
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Dean
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 10:25 |
In working out the specifics of where I've lived I realised I missed a move, so let's see...
Born in my aunt's living room in Southend-on-sea, Essex, Mum & Dad lived in a one-room bedsit in the neighbouring road, this is the one I forgot simply because I don't remember living there at all because... - Move 1: From bed-sit to rented ground floor flat in Southend when I was few months old.
- Move 2: From rented flat to council flat in Shoeburyness, Essex when I was three as the flats were being knocked down as part of the post-war slum clearance - the site is now a carpark.
- Move 3: From council flat to a large 18th century house stupidly close to a huge 14th century mansion house in Harrold, Bedfordshire when I was eight - Dad changed jobs for a better life in the country, got this rent-free house as part of the relocation deal.
- Move 4: From big house to small tide cottage, because Mum hated the big house and its even bigger neighbour towering over us - they stayed there until Dad died in 1990 but I moved out earlier to go to Uni...
- Move 5: Halls of residence in Leicester, Leicestershire.
- Move 5.5: Back to halls of residence in Leicester (after a six month work placement back home)
- Move 6: Shared Flat off Leith Walk Edinburgh, Lothian - another work placement, now in bonny Scotland.
- Move 7: Student house in Leicester
- Move 8: Flat in Wigston, Leicestershire - final year of Uni, moved in with GF
- Move 9: YMCA Hostile, Chislehurst, Kent - now married to GF; while I do work for the gov'ment we were billeted in YMCA... and living in the "girls" block since YMCA did not have married accommodation. Bath nights were fun...
- Move 10: Rented flat in Chislehurst, Kent - finally escaped from YMCA
- Move 11: Maisonette in Alton, Hampshire - after a year in Chislehurst, I leave MOD for a new job away from that there London place, first house we "owned" (ie rented from bank via a mortgage and 25 years of debt just as interest rates took that eyewatering hike to 20% thanks to that Thatcher woman and her idiot mates.).
- Move 12: Terraced house in Alton - moving on up, needed more space for restless infant and two restless cats.
- Move 13: Semi-detached rural life in Medstead, Hampshire - more space, stonking great garden.
Edited by Dean - February 24 2014 at 10:33
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 10:57 |
Well, at least this moving story has a happy ending. There in Medstead, Hampshire, you'll live happily ever after, I'm sure. That is, until you're so old you cannot maintain the stonking great garden anymore |
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Padraic
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 10:57 |
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I like living in Pennsylvania. *shrugs*
One move from ages 0-18
Three moves in university
Five moves hence
I guess I'm at 9.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 11:03 |
I don't know much more from Pennsylvania than the Groundhog Day movie. It looked like a happy state to me, in the movie at least. Later I found out that the movie had been shot on location in Illinois BTW I've been there once, making a trip alongside the eastcoast. I only remember the Liberty Bell. My mind was in Florida already, probably 
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Dean
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 11:15 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Well, at least this moving story has a happy ending.There in Medstead, Hampshire, you'll live happily ever after, I'm sure. That is, until you're so old you cannot maintain the stonking great garden anymore |
Aye, and as of the beginning of this month it is also my place of work, so currently it is in complete disarray as space is being made to convert a bedroom into an office with space for printers and far too many PCs for one person, plus I need some "bench space" for various hardware projects I'm working on so I've power supplies, meters, signal generators and an oscilloscope to find storage for. If the good lady decides that she would like to move again I think we shall be having "words".
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 24 2014 at 11:39 |
Dean wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Well, at least this moving story has a happy ending.There in Medstead, Hampshire, you'll live happily ever after, I'm sure. That is, until you're so old you cannot maintain the stonking great garden anymore |
Aye, and as of the beginning of this month it is also my place of work, so currently it is in complete disarray as space is being made to convert a bedroom into an office with space for printers and far too many PCs for one person, plus I need some "bench space" for various hardware projects I'm working on so I've power supplies, meters, signal generators and an oscilloscope to find storage for. If the good lady decides that she would like to move again I think we shall be having "words". |
The fact that her old bedroom is being changed for an office with all the electronic devices you just mentioned sounds like enough reason to me for the lady to have words with you Now, my situation is quite different, I'm moving to do the lady a favour. I'm a hero in her eyes  Well, it wouldn't hurt me either. Better salary, better working conditions, and on top of that, a stonking big garden for me as well. To be honest
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