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Dreamer
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 06:52 |
My fave metal bands are Black Sabbath, Metallica and Iron maiden.. But thats classic metal isnt it?? Dont like most heavier metal.
BTW. What type of metal is Slayer?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 06:57 |
Slayer are difficult to describe - I'd call it Thrash Metal, but their music also has many attibutes of Death Metal. It's Thrash with more brutal vocals and at a faster pace.
What are your favorite Prog Metal bands?
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goose
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 07:08 |
I think the problem is Slayer were doing semi-death metal before death metal bands were, so it's tempting to reclassify them based on what happened afterwards.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 07:15 |
^ I think they're best described as a Proto-Death band with Thrash influences.
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Logos
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:16 |
It's best to describe them as crap.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:27 |
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Logos
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:51 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
BTW: Check out Fantomas ... |
Yeah, I know Fantômas, and Dave Lombardo is a great drummer. But still, I don't find anything interesting in Slayer's music. Fantômas on the other hand have some fantastic moments, and "Delirium Cordia" is a masterpiece!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 10:57 |
Logos wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
BTW: Check out Fantomas ... |
Yeah, I know Fantômas, and Dave Lombardo is a great drummer. But still, I don't find anything interesting in Slayer's music. Fantômas on the other hand have some fantastic moments, and "Delirium Cordia" is a masterpiece! |
I agree with you - Slayer never held much interest for me either.
What do you think about
Annihilator?
Alice in Hell and Never, Neverland are awesome - great mix of Power and Thrash.
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Logos
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 11:05 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
What do you think about
Annihilator?
Alice in Hell and Never, Neverland are awesome - great mix of Power and Thrash.
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Sorry. Don't know them.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 11:09 |
Another great album:
Death Angel - Act III
Their other albums are relatively ordinary, but this is a Thrash masterpiece.
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Slayer!
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 15:10 |
Slayer is thrash metal. I wouldn't consider them death metal. IMO, Paul Bostaph (the 2nd drummer of Slayer) was better than Dave Lombardo. Although Dave was good Paul seems more technical.
Recently I've been into Fear Factory. I may be wrong, and probably am, but I think it's progressive like. Anyone have anything to say on that?
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goose
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:16 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Another great album:
Death Angel - Act III
Their other albums are relatively ordinary, but this is a Thrash masterpiece.
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Re Annihilator, they're alright but the vocals (and lyrics ) tend to spoil it a bit. The first two records still get in my CD player from time to time though.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:18 |
Another great band:
Lamb of God.
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Logos
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:35 |
You a thrash expert, Mike? At least you seem to know a bunch of obscure thrash groups I've never heard of. The only thrash band that I've gotten to know properly is Pantera. They rock. Darrell Dimebag was a fine, fine guitarist. Vulgar Display of Power
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Logos
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:39 |
Oh and by the way Mike, you should check out Borknagar and Vintersorg. Borknagar has three or four prog metal albums, and their first one is black metal, but a fine one also. I bet you might like them, being a friend of prog metal! Vintersorg is the vocalist of Borknagar, his solo material is very good!! But not as proggy as Borknagar. A lot of double bass drums and lots of clean vocals by Vintersorg. This guy is probably my fave metal singer after Åkerfeldt. Both have the amazing ability to sing both top notch growls and cleans!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 16:41 |
I know many obscure metal bands, that's true. But I'm not really an expert on Thrash, because during the time when Thrash had it's peak as a genre, I was already onto something else - Prog Metal.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: August 13 2005 at 21:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Another great band:
Lamb of God.
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.....Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been listening to their Ashes of the Wake cd quite a lot lately.
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Dreamer
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 07:19 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Slayer are difficult to describe - I'd call it Thrash Metal, but their music also has many attibutes of Death Metal. It's Thrash with more brutal vocals and at a faster pace.
What are your favorite Prog Metal bands?
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Well as far as prog metal goes, I really like Dream Theater, but I find it hard to get into any other bands. I tried Symphony X and Queensryche, but its abit cheesy, and i get the feeling theyre trying too hard to sound like something else. I heard Pain of Salvation are really good though, Im looking for a place to start with them.
I was asking about Slayer cause I had an arguement with some metalhead friends about it being thrash or death metal, it seems abit of both really.
Edit: I play drums, and I must admit Heavy metal is great fun to play, you can always challenge yourself with it.
Edited by Dreamer
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riversdancing
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 03:28 |
Actually, I'm more like a metalhead than a progger, my musical taste is
much closer to heavy metal than to the prog mammoths. I'd like to
mention some classic metal albums mostly from the technical
speed/thrash genre
Mekong Delta - Dances of Death, Kaleidoscope
Forbidden - Forbidden Evil, Distortion
Voivod - Dimension Hatröss, Nothingface
Testament - The Gathering
Dyoxen - First Among Equals
Toxik - World Circus, Think This
Realm - Endless War, Suiciety
Death Angel - The Ultra-Violence, Act III
Annihilator - Alice In Hell, Never Neverland
Agent Steel - Omega Conspiracy, Order of the Illuminati
Coroner - Mental Vortex
Mercyful Fate - Melissa, Don't Berak The Oath
Atheist - Piece of Time, Unquestionable Presence, Elements
Death - Human, Individual Thought Patterns, Symbolic, The Sound of Perseverance
"I know many obscure metal bands, that's true. But I'm not really an
expert on Thrash, because during the time when Thrash had it's peak as
a genre, I was already onto something else - Prog Metal. "
To Mike: I'm 28, so I have also missed the peak of thrash in the
late 80s. The same happened to me, discovered bands such as Rush
and Images and Words from a then-new band called Dream Theater
and these discoveries completly changed my musical taste. But later I
have recognized that the diversity is one of the most importat thing in
music and I started to collect things from distinct thrash bands
and also some CDs from hair metal bands.
Now I can listen Enchant, Forbidden, Shark Island, Winger, Death, Rush,
Mezarkabul/Pentagram, Bruce Dickinson, Candlemass and Ephel Duath in quick
succession.
Edited by riversdancing
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Kohllapse
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 04:46 |
Equinox
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