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Joined: January 20 2008
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 11:33
Yes, I also want to go on record that the Doors never did that much for me. The drug addled years of Morrison don't do anything for me. I can tell when a person is about to kill themselves with drugs and alcohol. Some people call it
"genius" -- maybe because there is money to be made for them off it. There was something about the Doors that I never liked, compared to bands like Floyd or Hawkwind that had the reputation for drugs but had great longevity. Ever notice that hardly anyone in prog has died early from drug or alcohol use, or suicide in some other way? I think that speaks volumes for the importance of this music.
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Joined: March 29 2013
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 12:16
brainstormer wrote:
Ever notice that hardly anyone in prog has died early from drug or alcohol use, or suicide in some other way? I think that speaks volumes for the importance of this music.
Perhaps prog musicians rank music as their ultimate priority rather than the 'rock star' trappings that can surround it?
Joined: May 25 2011
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 14:08
Snow Dog wrote:
Interesting that Light My Fire is doing so well. I find it hardly prog at all.
Jazzy leanings, a skillfully done organ improv, and a skillfully done guitar improv ... what are you confused about? Proggy-ish is a better word, I think, and last time I checked, The Doors did not make prog.
frankbostick wrote:
Albinoni's Adagio from Box Set 1997
What's 'at now?
Roj wrote:
I can't really handle the majority of their music but my God The Doors had some incredible moments didn't they. Most of them are found in the selection above too .
I absolutely loved Manzarek's organ work.
As to the vote, too many to choose from. An impossible choice.
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 14:25
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Interesting that Light My Fire is doing so well. I find it hardly prog at all.
Jazzy leanings, a skillfully done organ improv, and a skillfully done guitar improv ... what are you confused about? Proggy-ish is a better word, I think, and last time I checked, The Doors did not make prog.
Never said they did but the thread asks it.
I hear. A basic bluesy rock song with extended solos. Not proggish, not prog.
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Posted: May 29 2013 at 14:36
^ Extended solos (one is Chicago roots jazz, one is flamenco-styled) with a theme and a reprise. I guess, that said, a good number of things before prog had at least a slight degree of prog in it. An evolution in progress.
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Posted: May 30 2013 at 06:47
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Extended solos (one is Chicago roots jazz, one is flamenco-styled) with a theme and a reprise. I guess, that said, a good number of things before prog had at least a slight degree of prog in it. An evolution in progress.
True, some proggy elements - but Elvis had those same jazzy/flamenco rythms here and there
Edited by tamijo - May 30 2013 at 06:52
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Posted: May 30 2013 at 08:01
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Roj wrote:
I can't really handle the majority of their music but my God The Doors had some incredible moments didn't they. Most of them are found in the selection above too .
I absolutely loved Manzarek's organ work.
As to the vote, too many to choose from. An impossible choice.
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 08:32
Spare a thought for The Unknown Soldier.... Breakfast where the news is read. Television, children fed. Unborn living, living dead. Bullet strikes the helmet's head.
I think of the Doors as prog very much. But, they had hits on AM radio. There is the difference. Listen to what other bands were doing at that time and they were definitely prog. And, I love the Doors. They were so unique and original. Probably the best American band of that era. 'Unknown Soldier' is one of my all-time faves.
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 10:07
humor4u1959 wrote:
It's just sad that Morrison was so messed up.
I don't think it was sad, I think it was part of what made him...well, him. Without being "messed-up" he wouldn't have written the words/lyrics/poems that he did.
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 10:25
I haven't heard all of these songs, not the greatest The Doors fan around even though they made some nice tunes and Ray is a very big inspiration on me as a keyboardist. His use of keyboard sounds is simply stunning, especially on songs like "People are Strange", "Strange Days" and "The Crystal Ship". Which of these is the most prog is a hard question as I've never really thought about them in that way, but I'd say "The End" for it's craziness and conceptual theme, even though it's hardly my favorite, the beginning is magical but frankly it still bores me after a few minutes. Anyway, the question wasn't which song I liked the most :D
Leave the past to burn,
At least that's been his own
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