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Posted: May 24 2013 at 03:59
richardh wrote:
EDIt - got my tracks mixed up , meant to vote for Tales Of The Future as that's the one with Rousos not Damask Rose
Hey, I tend to mix them up too ... to this day. Arguably my most favorite album ever, and I can't even tell the difference between the two! Shame on me.
I'm not even sure I remember the tracks independently from each other
I've always loved the movie with music and all, but on its own I find the soundtrack rather tame........................................................... yeah so shoot me why don't ya
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Posted: May 24 2013 at 12:23
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jude111 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Whoa, ... two-disc version? I don't have that.
Now if you limited it to just the one-disc version, it would be easily (though originally it wasn't that easy) "Blade Runner Blues", the heaven a human mind doesn't deserve.
There's actually a 3-disc version , but the 3rd disc is largely new music by Vangelis, and it's not really close to the Blade Runner sound. The 2nd disc is largely very mellow, most of it incidental music. What's missing (besides some great tracks) are some of the cool sound effects from the film, like that blimp with the Japanese woman, and that advert that goes something like, "A new life awaits you in the off-world colonies, the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure...".
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Posted: June 02 2013 at 14:17
jude111 wrote:
Yes, I've seen these. In the absence of Vangelis ever playing the Blade Runner tracks live, I guess this is the next best thing ;-)
Vangelis has stated, more than once, that the main reason why he does not do things live is because he is too much of a free form person, and he always wants to do something else, which is an issue when you are doing a concert and you can't stray from the paths that the prescribed pieces already have!
There is also another issue ... he plays too many instruments when he composes these things and it is too hard to transcribe them all and have someone else play them. It would be better if someone else did, and he just sat there and watched!
And of course, we will miss the teaspoons that he plays on every album that make his work ... progressive! Though PA might not exactly agree!
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Posted: June 02 2013 at 14:19
moshkito wrote:
jude111 wrote:
Yes, I've seen these. In the absence of Vangelis ever playing the Blade Runner tracks live, I guess this is the next best thing ;-)
Vangelis has stated, more than once, that the main reason why he does not do things live is because he is too much of a free form person, and he always wants to do something else, which is an issue when you are doing a concert and you can't stray from the paths that the prescribed pieces already have!
There is also another issue ... he plays too many instruments when he composes these things and it is too hard to transcribe them all and have someone else play them. It would be better if someone else did, and he just sat there and watched!
And of course, we will miss the teaspoons that he plays on every album that make his work ... progressive! Though PA might not exactly agree!
The last time I've seen him live he played a 65 minutes medley of what came to his mind...
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Posted: June 02 2013 at 14:22
octopus-4 wrote:
The last time I've seen him live he played a 65 minutes medley of what came to his mind...
I wouldn't be interested in seeing that. I'd much prefer if he put together a band (saxophonist, vocalists, bassist, whatever else needed) and performed Blade Runner. He's had 30 years to do it, and missed the boat utterly and completely.
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Posted: June 03 2013 at 11:42
Rachel's Song it is for me - such a beautiful and atmospheric piece of music (the whole soundtrack is, really). Also, I have the normal one disc CD version but found a kind of bootlegged version called the "Esper Edition" of this soundtrack on the internet which adds a few pieces of music that didn't make it on the CD version but where in the movie, complete with dialogue sequences and this is the version I listen to most - it just transports the whole atmosphere of the movie so well!
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Posted: June 04 2013 at 01:12
^ For the most part it's just related. I mean, it's mostly electronic New Age with some proficient keyboard work on tracks like "Memories of Green" and some superb atmospheric jazzy parts on tracks like "Wait for Me" and "Blade Runner Blues". * Prog or not, it's a masterwork in its own right.
* You get some diversity for a good measure (it's New Age) on "Damask Rose" and "Tales of the Future" and some classic retro pop on "One More Kiss Dear".
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 14:40
jude111 wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
The last time I've seen him live he played a 65 minutes medley of what came to his mind...
I wouldn't be interested in seeing that. I'd much prefer if he put together a band (saxophonist, vocalists, bassist, whatever else needed) and performed Blade Runner. He's had 30 years to do it, and missed the boat utterly and completely.
Ohhhh yes you would ... the stuff he did with Neuronium that showed up on a CD was awesome!
But why are you wanting him to do what you want ... not what he wants? He is Vangelis, not you!
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Posted: June 05 2013 at 14:54
octopus-4 wrote:
One question to everybody....an old one....is it progressive enough or related only ?
This is a hard question, specially in a place like this ... but a valuable one, that has a tendency to break things up, instead of bringing them together.
The music itself, is not going to go very far. One small little piece with one of his friends, is not either, which would tend to fit into an area called "experimental", which was the best description of "666" 40 years ago! Musically, it was more "cultural" than it was "creative". Same thing for their earlier albums!
The film presentation, and its state of the art cutting and story line, and its directing, was magnificent. The use of the music, was even better, by a director whose history was ... using the music well ... check that ... very well! So using Vangelis, he knew that he was going to have with him one of the best, and the story was literary enough that someone like Vangelis would devote time and space to it! And he did!
Disn't win the Oscar for it, though! The studio did not push it, and there were some fights about the movie at the time, and its versions, which likely did not help!
Not progressive. But magnificent film making and film with an excellent cast of everything!
Edited by moshkito - June 05 2013 at 14:54
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Posted: June 20 2013 at 01:44
moshkito wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
One question to everybody....an old one....is it progressive enough or related only ?
This is a hard question, specially in a place like this ... but a valuable one, that has a tendency to break things up, instead of bringing them together.
The music itself, is not going to go very far. One small little piece with one of his friends, is not either, which would tend to fit into an area called "experimental", which was the best description of "666" 40 years ago! Musically, it was more "cultural" than it was "creative". Same thing for their earlier albums!
The film presentation, and its state of the art cutting and story line, and its directing, was magnificent. The use of the music, was even better, by a director whose history was ... using the music well ... check that ... very well! So using Vangelis, he knew that he was going to have with him one of the best, and the story was literary enough that someone like Vangelis would devote time and space to it! And he did!
Disn't win the Oscar for it, though! The studio did not push it, and there were some fights about the movie at the time, and its versions, which likely did not help!
Not progressive. But magnificent film making and film with an excellent cast of everything!
a measure I think of how good it was is that Ridley Scott's sci-fi follow up was only released last year (and needless to say nowhere near as good)
I sincerely hope there is no Blade Runner sequel as previously mentioned and please don't let that guy who did the awfull new version of Total Recall loose on it
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