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Posted: January 02 2013 at 17:13
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
John, funny you mention Unit Wail, I bought that a couple of months ago from Greg Walker but haven't given it a proper listen yet. When Greg's updates show up, I tend to just buy several of the purely instrumental albums he gets (I've got a friend who prefers 100% instrumental albums, so I'm always on the lookout for smething to recommmend to him), and hope for the best! Usually end up with something interesting!
I'll dig out the Unit Wail CD now and give it a listen over the next day or so!
Actually, just giving the opening track a spin now, what a dramatic, swirling Zeuhl run with nasty distorted guitar! I'll keep at it!
UPDATED - John, several tracks into the Unit Wail album, it's really good! Man, even the jazzier stuff on it like the third track `Télété' has a really bent and off-sounding guitar/keyboard unease to it!
Not sure you know the history but Unit Wail features Shub Niggurath's guitarist, Frank Fromy. It really has a Shub guitar sound but in a modern energetic angular sound. It's a wonderful album, one of my top 5 of the year.
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 17:14
Sagi, see what you think of this:
To be honest, there's different stuff on the album that sounds more Zeuhl-like, but overall it's rather bent, eerie and uneasy music. Bit of a mix of Crimson, Present, etc.
Here's the description of it from the Wayside Music website:
"Unit Wail is the long awaited return to music of Franck Fromy, who was the founder and leader of the rightly legendary dark French zeuhl band Shub Niggurath. The sound here is heavy and dark, but also modern; the sound is closer to modern, 00s heavy Zeuhl bands like Combat Astronomy and Ga'an. The line-up is Vincent Sicot-Vantalon (keysboards & all compositions), Philippe Haxaire (drums), Adrian Luna (bass), Emmanuel Pothier (synths) & Franck Fromy (guitar). Bassist James Hugget from Combat Astronomy even makes a guest appearance on one track.
Propelled by a heavy rocking band, the music explores dark Crimsonian horizons, illuminated by Franck’s stellar guitar. Unit Wail proposes us here some kind of dark Zeuhl post-rock, exploring little frequented side-paths."
I got this at the same time as that Strave album we've been discussing.
Perhaps I should suggest them to be added to the site, unless someone has already done so?
UPDATED - Band/album proposed in `Suggest New Bands' etc.
Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - January 02 2013 at 17:31
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 17:17
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
John, funny you mention Unit Wail, I bought that a couple of months ago from Greg Walker but haven't given it a proper listen yet. When Greg's updates show up, I tend to just buy several of the purely instrumental albums he gets (I've got a friend who prefers 100% instrumental albums, so I'm always on the lookout for smething to recommmend to him), and hope for the best! Usually end up with something interesting!
I'll dig out the Unit Wail CD now and give it a listen over the next day or so!
Actually, just giving the opening track a spin now, what a dramatic, swirling Zeuhl run with nasty distorted guitar! I'll keep at it!
UPDATED - John, several tracks into the Unit Wail album, it's really good! Man, even the jazzier stuff on it like the third track `Télété' has a really bent and off-sounding guitar/keyboard unease to it!
Not sure you know the history but Unit Wail features Shub Niggurath's guitarist, Frank Fromy. It really has a Shub guitar sound but in a modern energetic angular sound. It's a wonderful album, one of my top 5 of the year.
Nogbad, I obviously posted that long reply/sample just as you were posting yours!
Yep, I've been playing it all morning now, it's terrific!! It's probably because I bought about ten other CD's at the same time that it's been a little neglected.
I have never heard Shub Niggurath, even though I certainly know OF them, is there a place you would recommend to start with them?
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 18:17
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Nogbad, I obviously posted that long reply/sample just as you were posting yours!
Yep, I've been playing it all morning now, it's terrific!! It's probably because I bought about ten other CD's at the same time that it's been a little neglected.
I have never heard Shub Niggurath, even though I certainly know OF them, is there a place you would recommend to start with them?
Indeed we were
Their masterpiece is Les Morts Vont Vite, it's an absolute monster of an album, a lot more atmospheric, dark & menacing than Unit Wail but if you like that sort of thing it's genre defining alone with Univers Zero - Heresie.
The other one to get is Introduction, it has one shared track with Les Morts but it's worth it for the rest. They are the only two albums released by the definitive lineup. To be honest I'd avoid the rest.
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 18:30
Thanks for the suggestions, Nogbad, I've written them down to look further into them! Man, something as full-on as `Heresie' is a very intimidating prospect - bring it lol!
Their most recent `Clivages' was really good if I recall? I've also got `Heatwave' by Univers Zero, but not really given it much of a listen, what's your opinion on that one? Should I go and dig it out?
I've got a number of Present albums (although I don't enjoy those ones with vocals as much), and `Le Poison Qui Rend Fou' is in my top 5 favourite prog-related albums. I must have heard it over 70 times and it STILL floors me every time. That album seriously lowers the temperature of any room it's played in.....heh, and I frequently play it in my office at work much to the annoyance of other people!
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 19:29
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Nogbad, I obviously posted that long reply/sample just as you were posting yours!
Yep, I've been playing it all morning now, it's terrific!! It's probably because I bought about ten other CD's at the same time that it's been a little neglected.
I have never heard Shub Niggurath, even though I certainly know OF them, is there a place you would recommend to start with them?
Indeed we were
Their masterpiece is Les Morts Vont Vite, it's an absolute monster of an album, a lot more atmospheric, dark & menacing than Unit Wail but if you like that sort of thing it's genre defining alone with Univers Zero - Heresie.
The other one to get is Introduction, it has one shared track with Les Morts but it's worth it for the rest. They are the only two albums released by the definitive lineup. To be honest I'd avoid the rest.
I'd also recommend their second (or third) C'Etaient De Tres.... By no means as consistent as the other two but some of the pieces are just as good. Testament is a different beast all together, pure avant-garde madness full of noise, only recommended if you are into that sort of thing.
Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 19:34
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Their most recent `Clivages' was really good if I recall? I've also got `Heatwave' by Univers Zero, but not really given it much of a listen, what's your opinion on that one? Should I go and dig it out?
I've got a number of Present albums (although I don't enjoy those ones with vocals as much), and `Le Poison Qui Rend Fou' is in my top 5 favourite prog-related albums. I must have heard it over 70 times and it STILL floors me every time. That album seriously lowers the temperature of any room it's played in.....heh, and I frequently play it in my office at work much to the annoyance of other people!
Clivages is a very strong album, excellent release. Heatwave is the last album of the early string of five albums before the band went on a 13 year hiatus. It continues the more electric sound started with Uzed. I like all UZ albums but to my ears Heresie is the weakest of the early albums, I'll reach for the other four before that one.
I'd suggest you give it another chance and see if it connects. After that I'd go back Ceux Du Dehors, Uzed, Heresie & 1313.
Present are a wonderful band, I've got everything by them and pretty much like all of it.
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Posted: January 02 2013 at 21:05
Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:
Sagi, see what you think of this:
To be honest, there's different stuff on the album that sounds more Zeuhl-like, but overall it's rather bent, eerie and uneasy music. Bit of a mix of Crimson, Present, etc.
Here's the description of it from the Wayside Music website:
"Unit Wail is the long awaited return to music of Franck Fromy, who was the founder and leader of the rightly legendary dark French zeuhl band Shub Niggurath. The sound here is heavy and dark, but also modern; the sound is closer to modern, 00s heavy Zeuhl bands like Combat Astronomy and Ga'an. The line-up is Vincent Sicot-Vantalon (keysboards & all compositions), Philippe Haxaire (drums), Adrian Luna (bass), Emmanuel Pothier (synths) & Franck Fromy (guitar). Bassist James Hugget from Combat Astronomy even makes a guest appearance on one track.
Propelled by a heavy rocking band, the music explores dark Crimsonian horizons, illuminated by Franck’s stellar guitar. Unit Wail proposes us here some kind of dark Zeuhl post-rock, exploring little frequented side-paths."
I got this at the same time as that Strave album we've been discussing.
Perhaps I should suggest them to be added to the site, unless someone has already done so?
UPDATED - Band/album proposed in `Suggest New Bands' etc.
Yeah they should be on here for sure and i appreciate all the feedback you guys are giving as well. I have but haven't given it a spin yet. I will correct that soon. I am pleasantly surprised to see PRESENT really doing well on this poll.
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Posted: January 03 2013 at 00:44
Thanks Mike that was great, like always your descriptions are on the spot. From that short video it does feel like they do belong here. Hmmm...but that drum sound can be a little tedious on the ears if listening to a whole album. I've heard it a hundred times, it was recorded with a trigger which sometimes sounds good and sometimes not. I find it harder to get used to, reminds me of the band About Tess. But I don't want to sound negative because I did like the music
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