Favourite Dream Theater Epic?

Alitare wrote: The shortest one because it is over quicker.

Zeqexes, on these Archives many people think D.Theater are a hugely defining, technical, impressive and very important modern progressive band, while just as many find them to be the most tedious, overwrought, unemotional and clinical bore!

I fall right in between those two, and can completely understand both arguments! I totally sit on the fence with this band!

JS19 wrote: Horizons wrote: zeqexes wrote: Alitare wrote: The shortest one because it is over quicker.  ...cannot...compute... It is an opinion that is shared throughout PA. It's also kind of annoying. Yeah lots of people don't like DT, I get it. It's not that funny any more. Doesn't help that a lot of the fans are a bit crazy about them, but still, it's a bit pretentious to have a go at DT every single time they are mentioned... I still enjoy them from time to time, even if they are a little silly sometimes  In answer to the question, I think my favourite would have to be In The Presence Of Enemies. Not a popular opinion because of the dumb lyrics, but I honestly don't expect a lyrical masterpiece when I listen to a DT track

DREAM THEATER are easy one of the most brilliant, technically complex bands in prog and easily the world. People, I feel, make fun of DREAM THEATER because they are just so incredibly technical and some people just don't get it. It is my experience that people often fear and belittle what they don't understand. I call those people closet case idiots.
Anyway, just ignor those morons who actually have the audacity to make fun of them.

dtguitarfan wrote: So...you actually care about the lyrics?  Haha, kind of kidding there - lyrics are important, but for me they've always been the whipped cream on the sundae.  More important to me is the music itself - the vocals, the harmonies, the instrumentals, etc.

The music is the most important aspect, for sure.   However, if you are going to have lyrics at all, they should, at the very least, not be totally ridiculous.  Which they are on The Count of Tuscany.  I still listen to it, because the music is great, but it does sort of take away from the grandness when I find myself giggling uncontrollably at certain points.  Maybe if they didn't seem so serious about the silly lyrics, I would feel differently (I'm a Zappa fan, so I can appreciate deliberately silly lyrics). 

Ytse_Jam wrote: DT has haters like every single band on the earth. Everyone has its tastes, not a big deal. Honestly, I find most of King Crimson's albums to be more boring, pretentious and unuseful than most of DT's tracks, but who cares? Talkin about lyrics, has anybody figured out what Metropolis pt. 1 is about?

John Petrucchi has a way of starting off a story and then having it make no sense. Metropolis part 1 deals with the maracle (the after life) and the sleeper(hypnotheripists) who originally puts the main character NICHOLAS into after life orbit. Now I really can't say today how metropolis pt 1 and 2 really connect with one other lyrically. It doesn't make sense just like the track THE KILLING HAND. we just have to guess or assume what happens. Kills me!! Anyway, terrific question, but I'm just as baffled as you. 😁

Octavarium. I LOVE the melancholy beginning segments. 

Snow Dog wrote: JoeyPS wrote: Octavarium. I LOVE the melancholy beginning segments.  Shine On You Crazy Rudess?

progbethyname wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: DT has haters like every single band on the earth. Everyone has its tastes, not a big deal. Honestly, I find most of King Crimson's albums to be more boring, pretentious and unuseful than most of DT's tracks, but who cares? Talkin about lyrics, has anybody figured out what Metropolis pt. 1 is about?  John Petrucchi has a way of starting off a story and then having it make no sense. Metropolis part 1 deals with the maracle (the after life) and the sleeper(hypnotheripists) who originally puts the main character NICHOLAS into after life orbit. Now I really can't say today how metropolis pt 1 and 2 really connect with one other lyrically. It doesn't make sense just like the track THE KILLING HAND. we just have to guess or assume what happens. Kills me!! Anyway, terrific question, but I'm just as baffled as you. 😁

Actually I heard that the whole story of Metropolis Parts 1 & 2 are a modern retelling of the mythical tale of Romulus and Remus, the sons of Mars....

It must be at least 15+ min to be classified as an epic to me.

Snow Dog wrote: JoeyPS wrote: Octavarium. I LOVE the melancholy beginning segments.  Shine On You Crazy Rudess?

Oh big time!!! Count of Tuscony too. Huge FLOYD influences