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GoldenSpiral 
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 Posted: July 19 2005 at 15:33 |
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If you read any of the books of Armando Gallo's that he's written on Genesis, it states clearly that Gabriel NEVER used drugs. He's just naturally strange. |
That's refreshing to hear that someone can create something so great without the use of drugs. It seems like too rare a thing these days...
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Logos
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 15:51 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Dennis wrote:
If you read any of the books of Armando Gallo's that he's written on Genesis, it states clearly that Gabriel NEVER used drugs. He's just naturally strange. |
That's refreshing to hear that someone can create something so great without the use of drugs. It seems like too rare a thing these days... |
Remember Uncle Frank didn't use any neither. And when one listens to his music one must think that it has been done with a lot of chemical help!
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 15:56 |
Logos wrote:
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Dennis wrote:
If you read any of the books of Armando Gallo's that he's written on Genesis, it states clearly that Gabriel NEVER used drugs. He's just naturally strange. |
That's refreshing to hear that someone can create something so great without the use of drugs. It seems like too rare a thing these days... |
Remember Uncle Frank didn't use any neither. And when one listens to his music one must think that it has been done with a lot of chemical help!
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Of course! How could I forget? what a total madman.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 22:46 |
I remember reading somewhere that Peter once in his life smoked pot but the effect was so terrible that after that always hated drugs.
I found it in the Genesis Forum:
The story goes that Gabriel attended some party, ate some hash cake and stumbled home in the dark, barely knowing where to go...
He remarked later that it was the most fearful and afraid he had ever been and never tried it again or any drug.
Collins smoked pot (by his own admittance + there are a couple of photos around of PC 'lighting up'). I'd also heard that Hackett admitted to 'some' drug usage in the early days. Banks and Rutherford I'm not sure of... |
I also remember one interview by the Italian TV where Peter said that he hated when people was wasted in their concerts and that he wanted an audience trying to understand the music, Mike Rutherford made the translation to Italian, but he didn't seemed so sure about what he was saying 
Iván
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 20 2005 at 04:35 |
Easy Livin wrote:
I read somewhere that Marillion were upset that people thought their song "Supper's nearly ready" was a rip off of this Genesis classic. |
Fish around 84: Grumble, Grumble , Grumble, Grendel, Grumble, Grendel, Grumble
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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DJPuffyLemon
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Posted: March 31 2008 at 12:41 |
AbsentEnemy wrote:
I'm almost positive that Jon Anderson's lyrics don't actually mean anything. He just writes gibberish and calls it artistic. |
close to the edge is based loosely on siddartha. but he admitted a lot of liberty was taken with the lyrics so they sound nice as opposed to meaningful....
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: March 31 2008 at 12:51 |
DJPuffyLemon wrote:
AbsentEnemy wrote:
I'm almost positive that Jon Anderson's lyrics don't actually mean anything. He just writes gibberish and calls it artistic. |
close to the edge is based loosely on siddartha. but he admitted a lot of liberty was taken with the lyrics so they sound nice as opposed to meaningful.... |
What is this? A pothole? Nope, just a (thread) bump.
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chopper
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Posted: April 01 2008 at 15:34 |
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Nice to see my 3 year old threads being resurrected.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 05 2008 at 09:58 |
DJPuffyLemon must have run across it while walking across the sitting room. 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: April 06 2008 at 05:11 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
DJPuffyLemon must have run across it while walking across the sitting room.
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I swear he was just going to turn the television off...
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: April 21 2008 at 01:34 |
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It didnt seem quite right...
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 12:00 |
AbsentEnemy wrote:
I'm almost positive that Jon Anderson's lyrics don't actually mean anything. He just writes gibberish and calls it artistic. |
It really depends on when you are talking about in Jon's career. Jon has employed several different lyrical styles over his career (although the "gibberish" style tends to coincide with some of Yes's most popular songs.)
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 12:21 |
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i always thought the 7 saintly shrouded men was a reference to the book of revelations.
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: April 22 2008 at 16:54 |
keiser willhelm wrote:
i always thought the 7 saintly shrouded men was a reference to the book of revelations. |
I think the whole song somewhat is.
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Squonkman
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 15:13 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
keiser willhelm wrote:
i always thought the 7 saintly shrouded men was a reference to the book of revelations. |
I think the whole song somewhat is.
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It is. And its a love story, a personal reflection on Peter trying to understand what love is. He becomes distanced from his wife, they take a wierd journey and eventually witness the Apocalypse, and only then do they realize how important their bond and connection and love for each other is. The whole thing is full of quotes and references from the Book of Revelations. Scott McMahan's Genesis Discography has the most comprehensive analysis of the song I have ever seen done. Great stuff for a legendary classic, in some ways the ultimate prog song.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 15:19 |
^So then Gabriel must be pretty hard core religious. I mean witnessing the Apocalypse and all.
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Squonkman
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 15:27 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
^So then Gabriel must be pretty hard core religious. I mean witnessing the Apocalypse and all. |
I don't know how personally religious Gabriel is (or was), or whether he just had a fascination with the Bible and religious themes, but anyone who writes these words:
Can't you feel our souls ignite
Shedding ever changing colours, in the darkness of the fading night,
Like the river joins the ocean, as the germ in a seed grows
We have finally been freed to get back home.
There's an angel standing in the sun, and he's crying with a loud voice,
"This is the supper of the mighty One",
The Lord of Lords,
King of Kings,
Has returned to lead His children home,
To take them to the new Jerusalem.
you would think would be somewhat spiritual and a believer.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: April 24 2008 at 15:33 |
Squonkman wrote:
StyLaZyn wrote:
^So then Gabriel must be pretty hard core religious. I mean witnessing the Apocalypse and all. |
I don't know how personally religious Gabriel is (or was), or whether he just had a fascination with the Bible and religious themes, but anyone who writes these words:
Can't you feel our souls ignite
Shedding ever changing colours, in the darkness of the fading night,
Like the river joins the ocean, as the germ in a seed grows
We have finally been freed to get back home.
There's an angel standing in the sun, and he's crying with a loud voice,
"This is the supper of the mighty One",
The Lord of Lords,
King of Kings,
Has returned to lead His children home,
To take them to the new Jerusalem.
you would think would be somewhat spiritual and a believer. |
Yes, one would think. But as I once understood it, these visions were not seen in a drug or alcohol induced state. Now, you take Neal Morse, now writing Christian Prog, who basically had a life changing experience without any visions. He simply prayed for his daughter to get better when she was seriously ill. She did, and he sings his praises to the lord now.
Just an observation more than anything.
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