Vompatti (yup, the one and only) - Prog Electronic

harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Because of the signed/unsigned/free releases thing.  What absolute bollocks. That's an absurd policy in the year 2011. What exactly is absurd?

Record labels are a defunct idea by this point. Free self-releases are becoming more and more ubiquitous, and it's nonsensical to reject this music (which CLEARLY fits into the site) on the basis of how it's released.

I remember a post by Dean (I think) in which he condemned label-less artists as apparently if you're not on a label your music must not be good enough.

I'm too lazy to look for it and yep, I may have synthetised his opinion in a blunt, perhaps distorted way, but looks like the admin team or at least him are against unsigned acts.

This is unfortunate.

I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago.

From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me. 

Anthony H. wrote: Epignosis wrote: I don't understand the weeping and gnashing of teeth: Any collaborator can see the Band Admission Policy and the Signed/Unsigned Policy in the CZ that was posted a year ago. From what I can tell, it's essentially up to Philippe to decide what artists go into Prog Electronic and what artists don't.  Why there is only one person on a genre team is beyond me.  I'm aware of the policy, but that doesn't mean that I have to agree with it. Indeed, the team should be expanded. I can think of a few people who could easily serve it well.

Windhawk wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Because of the signed/unsigned/free releases thing.  What absolute bollocks. That's an absurd policy in the year 2011. What exactly is absurd? I think this may be a reference to the major labels now phasing out physical CDs as a mass medium, and many new artists utilizing the "get my music for free" approach to build a following.

harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Because of the signed/unsigned/free releases thing.  What absolute bollocks. That's an absurd policy in the year 2011. What exactly is absurd? Record labels are a defunct idea by this point. Free self-releases are becoming more and more ubiquitous, and it's nonsensical to reject this music (which CLEARLY fits into the site) on the basis of how it's released. Eh? We've made it already possible for free releases to get in, it's been almost a year now.

Then why doesn't Vomps qualify? (I'm actually asking; maybe there's something I don't know about the policy.)

I'm still more interested in why Prog Electronic has one man deciding who goes in and who doesn't, especially when it seemed a priority that Eclectic Prog go from three men to 5+.

Epignosis wrote: I'm still more interested in why Prog Electronic (and Krautrock and Indo/Raga) has one man deciding who goes in and who doesn't, especially when it seemed a priority that Eclectic Prog go from three men to 5+.

Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Anthony H. wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: Because of the signed/unsigned/free releases thing.  What absolute bollocks. That's an absurd policy in the year 2011. What exactly is absurd? Record labels are a defunct idea by this point. Free self-releases are becoming more and more ubiquitous, and it's nonsensical to reject this music (which CLEARLY fits into the site) on the basis of how it's released. Eh? We've made it already possible for free releases to get in, it's been almost a year now. Then why doesn't Vomps qualify? (I'm actually asking; maybe there's something I don't know about the policy.) The free releases policy was made to adjust the PA submission process to help pro bands and dedicated musicians that happen to release their music for free go through, while discerning them from bedroom projects or people creating music on a computer for fun, which PA is not about. Not that this should read that we consider bedroom projects and the likes as bad things, it's just where we chose to set the bar (we can't host all music created). But if the music fits, why not? By those standards, professionalism (regardless if it's free or not) is an important standard for inclusion. So, does this mean that we take Simon Railton off? My point is: it's inconsistent. If music fits on the site under a certain genre, then it should be included.

I don't know who Simon Railton is.

I know it's inconsistent. For example, personally I'd like to address the inconsistency by dealing somehow with amateurish stuff that can technically be added by fulfilling our requirements for being "signed", but I don't know how (or if it even would be possible). Regardless of that, the new policy still is a major improvement. And no, we're not going to start putting anything in, we are quite keen on these nuances that we differentiate between.