Please seperate Post Rock and Math Rock

harmonium.ro wrote:  However, I understand that the Admin team agreed upon the split of RIO from the mother avant-prog category, a split for a few tens of bands...

...then there would be an error in your understanding. The Admin team has not agreed to split RIO and Avant.

Interesting point about the "purity" of mathrock Harmonium! As you can probably tell from the thread you cited I disagree with the idea of that purity. I would like to see mathrock as a seperate genre because to me it seems that the current team tends to be experts on post-rock but when it comes to math-rock they tend to ignore changes in the scene that they don't like (like the trend to math-pop)

If math rock were a seperate sub I feel like more people would take notice of it and take a listen (especially since math rock is not highly represented in the top albums of post/math) also it would allow for more math rock bands to get added and eliminate the confustion of people not trying Battles because they don't like Sigur Ros even though the two bands sound nothing alike. Keeping the two together because they come from the same scene is crazy they are nothing alike.

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Proletariat wrote: Interesting point about the "purity" of mathrock Harmonium! As you can probably tell from the thread you cited I disagree with the idea of that purity. I would like to see mathrock as a seperate genre because to me it seems that the current team tends to be experts on post-rock but when it comes to math-rock they tend to ignore changes in the scene that they don't like (like the trend to math-pop) If math rock were a seperate sub I feel like more people would take notice of it and take a listen (especially since math rock is not highly represented in the top albums of post/math) also it would allow for more math rock bands to get added and eliminate the confustion of people not trying Battles because they don't like Sigur Ros even though the two bands sound nothing alike. Keeping the two together because they come from the same scene is crazy they are nothing alike.

I disagree on most counts. You may be confusing the math-rock team with the post-rock team. I'm not an expert in math-rock indeed, but the post-rock team doesn't handle math-rock. David of the math-rock team however remains the most knowledgeable person in math-rock that I know. Also, with Enter on #2, American Don on #4 and Don Cab 2 on #5 I don't think math rock is not represented well in the category chart. That's about as popular math rock gets on PA.

Atavachron wrote: it's worth noting we're lucky to have a Mathrock distinction at all -

True that.

Proletariat wrote: ^^^ this is also true. certainly better than post/experimental like it used to be

Exp/Post was perfect back then and it was a very adequate description of what was in. Math-rock bands weren't misrepresented by that category title for the simple reason that most math rock bands were in avant-prog back then.

^ and the biographies. It is a project of mine to have each bio state whether it's a post rock or a math-rock band that we're dealing with. 

harmonium.ro wrote: Proletariat wrote: Interesting point about the "purity" of mathrock Harmonium! As you can probably tell from the thread you cited I disagree with the idea of that purity. I would like to see mathrock as a seperate genre because to me it seems that the current team tends to be experts on post-rock but when it comes to math-rock they tend to ignore changes in the scene that they don't like (like the trend to math-pop) If math rock were a seperate sub I feel like more people would take notice of it and take a listen (especially since math rock is not highly represented in the top albums of post/math) also it would allow for more math rock bands to get added and eliminate the confustion of people not trying Battles because they don't like Sigur Ros even though the two bands sound nothing alike. Keeping the two together because they come from the same scene is crazy they are nothing alike. I disagree on most counts. You may be confusing the math-rock team with the post-rock team. I'm not an expert in math-rock indeed, but the post-rock team doesn't handle math-rock. David of the math-rock team however remains the most knowledgeable person in math-rock that I know. Also, with Enter on #2, American Don on #4 and Don Cab 2 on #5 I don't think math rock is not represented well in the category chart. That's about as popular math rock gets on PA. Atavachron wrote: it's worth noting we're lucky to have a Mathrock distinction at all - True that. Proletariat wrote: ^^^ this is also true. certainly better than post/experimental like it used to be Exp/Post was perfect back then and it was a very adequate description of what was in. Math-rock bands weren't misrepresented by that category title for the simple reason that most math rock bands were in avant-prog back then.

as an outsider it is sometimes hard to see how things work around here in this big mysterious website. I do however stand by my opinion that Math-Rock is glaringly omitting the best and brightest new math rock bands simply because they are poppy.

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harmonium.ro wrote: ^ and the biographies. It is a project of mine to have each bio state whether it's a post rock or a math-rock band that we're dealing with.

That would be more than good enoug, especially if this were specified when someone searches through the website alphabetically.

seb2112 wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: ^ and the biographies. It is a project of mine to have each bio state whether it's a post rock or a math-rock band that we're dealing with.  That would be more than good enoug, especially if this were specified when someone searches through the website alphabetically.

95% of bands added as Mathrock are specified as such in their bios 

If you don't know what is math rock...